Originally Posted by DarkWizard12

OK, just to summarize from what I can skim from the site itself(I'm still reading it, and yes, I do in fact take my time to read), your answer is basically "There are a bunch of old rocks...I mean...*aherm*...Fossils, that look similiar"?

Originally Posted by conquer

Peanuts!

Scientists are blind again.

One fish lost its capability to see red color and the other to see blue color, and instead one of them can see better in red and the other in blue. This is the common gaining and losing of characteristics, this is a mere adaptation, not so an evolutionary step.

A real evolutionary step should be when the fish can see good at the surface and in deep waters (both colors) without losing any characteristic.

Originally Posted by conquer

Good points but still no evidence.

Did the elephant learn by himself how to draw? His flowers seem to be the result of a good training since it was very young, Do elephants love flowers?

About apes learning sign language and use of tools, who trained them?

In both cases, -elephants and apes- humans were the trainers, so the animals didn't evolve but they only were merely well trained.

We humans have the same pattern, we copy our basic survival. We teach our children to walk in two feet and to talk a human language, otherwise, if wolves and apes adopted you -as it happened in other countries- you will be walking in your four "feet".

Children rescued from wild animals not only walked in "four legs" but they had hard time learning to be humans -years and years of training just to learn the abc-, and the reason is because their first knowledge was to acquire the steps and tools for survival as a wolf or as an ape.

Every living creature which has a brain can think, it is just the proper training at a early age what causes the amazing results as the painter elephant.

I saw in the 70's the famous Moscow Circus some chicken doing tricks that can amaze anyone, because chicken brains are assumed to be at the level of the stupid, but a good training since they were chicks and lots of patience can give great results. The bad news is that in their traveling to South American countries with their show, someone "stole" the chicken and the trainer was crying and offering a good reward for their return...ignoring that the one who took the chicken didn't care about how intelligent the birds were but how delicious soup they had that night at home...

Originally Posted by conquer

Peanuts!

Scientists are blind again.

One fish lost its capability to see red color and the other to see blue color, and instead one of them can see better in red and the other in blue. This is the common gaining and losing of characteristics, this is a mere adaptation, not so an evolutionary step.

Originally Posted by conquer

A real evolutionary step should be when the fish can see good at the surface and in deep waters (both colors) without losing any characteristic.