Kernel Sanders

Of course. We have more than 99% of our DNA in common with chimps. If you don't think we fit into the ape arm of the evolutionary tree, where do we diverge from it? Are we outside of it entirely? Are we not mammals? Are we not vertebrates?

Of course it is. We are not the same species, we are an evolved version and therefore have traits that lower apes do not.

No idea, I also have no idea what intelligence really is (do you?). Science doesn't claim to be complete, but that doesn't make it wrong. Particle physics cannot yet explain why objects have mass, but the theory of universal gravitation is still valid. Evolutionary biology has not yet uncovered every facet of the transition from ape to man, but said transition is still obvious.

DarkWizard12

The common snake has evolved, supposedly, yet can it paint a picture? Why is it that in our relatively short existence, we are able to create the most realistic art, yet no reptile can paint even a single picture?

I always heard it is exhibited as the ability to create art, and not just paint thrown on a canvas, but actually made to look like something. Why is it that we are so far ahead with so little time in existence compared to other animals?

winston53660

Because the simulacrum of the mirror does not aid in the snakes survival.

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Kernel Sanders

Here is a video of an elephant painting a picture of an elephant (Snopes link)

YouTube - ORIGINAL Elephant Painting

I should revise my previous statement. Intelligence is not unique to humans, just much stronger and more abstract. Dolphins can teach one another, as evidenced by the rise of this behavior

YouTube - Dolphin play bubble rings

Many gorillas have been taught to communicate (even abstract ideas) using sign language. Populations of chimps have learned how to use twigs as tools from one another. Human beings are an extreme example of intelligence in nature, but we are not alone. What is it that you think sets us apart?

obvious Child

lol. Read more carefully. Anatomical changes are obviously clear that show evolution of hominids over time.

What is your justification for denying that man evolved from apes?

What evidence exists for special creation?

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DarkWizard12

Just hold up, everyone! I'm still trying to read the first link! I'll get to those clips in a second. (flips off AllTel and their internet modem of suckiness)

marduc

Koko.org - Koko's World - Art

In particular "Apple Chase" with its picture of the subject for comparison is awfully remarkable, as is "Bird", but somehow I know you will claim that this is just accidental to perpetuate your denial.

Kernel Sanders

Jeez - you're a slow reader

conquer

Peanuts!

Scientists are blind again.

One fish lost its capability to see red color and the other to see blue color, and instead one of them can see better in red and the other in blue. This is the common gaining and losing of characteristics, this is a mere adaptation, not so an evolutionary step.

A real evolutionary step should be when the fish can see good at the surface and in deep waters (both colors) without losing any characteristic.

conquer

Good points but still no evidence.

Did the elephant learn by himself how to draw? His flowers seem to be the result of a good training since it was very young, Do elephants love flowers?

About apes learning sign language and use of tools, who trained them?

In both cases, -elephants and apes- humans were the trainers, so the animals didn't evolve but they only were merely well trained.

We humans have the same pattern, we copy our basic survival. We teach our children to walk in two feet and to talk a human language, otherwise, if wolves and apes adopted you -as it happened in other countries- you will be walking in your four "feet".

Children rescued from wild animals not only walked in "four legs" but they had hard time learning to be humans -years and years of training just to learn the abc-, and the reason is because their first knowledge was to acquire the steps and tools for survival as a wolf or as an ape.

Every living creature which has a brain can think, it is just the proper training at a early age what causes the amazing results as the painter elephant.

I saw in the 70's the famous Moscow Circus some chicken doing tricks that can amaze anyone, because chicken brains are assumed to be at the level of the stupid, but a good training since they were chicks and lots of patience can give great results. The bad news is that in their traveling to South American countries with their show, someone "stole" the chicken and the trainer was crying and offering a good reward for their return...ignoring that the one who took the chicken didn't care about how intelligent the birds were but how delicious soup they had that night at home...