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Old 10-11-08, 03:13 PM   #411
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Re: Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists

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"Homelessness, crime, racism, oppression-we have the resources and knowledge to fight and overcome these things."
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"be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and . . . be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, a teacher teaching for social justice and liberation."
While attending Columbia University Teachers College in 1984 he had an epiphany. He adopted the views of one of his professors, Maxine Greene-a leader in the "critical pedagogy" movement. What did he take away from the course? An ideology that he has promoted throughout his career -- and one that has very little to do with education but has a great deal to do with radicalism. Stern writes:


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As Ayers wrote later, he took fire from Greene's lectures on how the "oppressive hegemony" of the capitalist social order "reproduces" itself through the traditional practice of public schooling-critical pedagogy's fancy way of saying that the evil corporations exercise thought control through the schools.

Greene told future teachers that they could help change this bleak landscape by developing a "transformative" vision of social justice and democracy in their classrooms. Her vision, though, was a far cry from the democratic optimism of the Founding Fathers, Abraham Lincoln, and Martin Luther King Jr., which most parents would endorse. Instead, critical pedagogy theorists nurse a rancorous view of an America in which it is always two minutes to midnight and a knock on the door by the thought police is imminent. The education professors feel themselves anointed to use the nation's K-12 classrooms to resist this oppressive system. Thus Maxine Greene urged teachers not to mince words with children about the evils of the existing social order. They should portray "homelessness as a consequence of the private dealings of landlords, an arms buildup as a consequence of corporate decisions, racial exclusion as a consequence of a private property-holder's choice." In other words, they should turn the little ones into young socialists and critical theorists.

All music to Bill Ayers's ears. The ex-Weatherman glimpsed a new radical vocation. He dreamed of bringing the revolution from the streets to the schools. And that's exactly what he has managed to do.
More here: American Thinker: Bill Ayers and the Subversion of Education
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Old 10-11-08, 03:27 PM   #412
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The Ed Schools’ Latest—and Worst—Humbug by Sol Stern, City Journal Summer 2006

Here's a real good article about how Ayers' was able to transform his radicalism into an educational career.
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Prove it. No one in this thread has yet to prove this statement, though it's been made many times.




uhm its been posted many times. why you choose to ignore it is beyond me.


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Please re-read the post of mine you quoted. I'm asking for someone to prove that Ayers is indoctrinating our youth. If you can't do that, don't quote the post asking people to do so.


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“We’re gonna change it” — by indoctrinating America’s youth, one “Obama kid” at a time The Real Barack Obama
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So this is a teacher, but not Bill Ayers...
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I don't see him promoting indoctrination of our youth in this article. Maybe I missed something?
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While attending Columbia University Teachers College in 1984 he had an epiphany. He adopted the views of one of his professors, Maxine Greene-a leader in the "critical pedagogy" movement. What did he take away from the course? An ideology that he has promoted throughout his career -- and one that has very little to do with education but has a great deal to do with radicalism. Stern writes:




More here: American Thinker: Bill Ayers and the Subversion of Education
All of this from an obviously biased news source.. interesting
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All of this from an obviously biased news source.. interesting
If any part of the position in the link provided isn't true, the onus is on you to debunk it.
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If any part of the position in the link provided isn't true, the onus is on you to debunk it.
Oh I can't say it's not true. I would have to research it in depth before I jump to a conclusion. All I'm saying is that the source page is blatantly Anti-Obama.
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Oh I can't say it's not true. I would have to research it in depth before I jump to a conclusion. All I'm saying is that the source page is blatantly Anti-Obama.
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