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Old 10-10-08, 11:53 AM   #401
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Obama was his go-to man to get his ideals and agenda moved foward.
That is true.

McCain should just whip out a picture of Che to see if the Obamanation has an orgasm.

Just throwing out illegally obtained evidence would not have been enough, because the Fabian Socialist Jimmy Cotter Pin believed in people like Ayers.

Everyone that was at Ayers house also should be assumed to have believed in Ayers. The "liberals" are not just defending the Obamanation, they are defending Ayers and proposing a statue of limitations on terrorism. The hypocrisy is wired into the "liberal" brain, a wiretap is considered worse than a bombing. Wiretapping to catch a "liberal" is bad government, but bombing a government for the greater good is good "liberal" government. The libertarian is justified in bombing the Obamanation with terrorism, until they win, because according to a "liberal" professor "The 'good cause' is determined by who wins the war."

The simple fact is the "liberals" have not changed, and it is not just one professor:

"The second foible we find is a basic misunderstanding of terrorism or guerilla war. Someone said that one man's freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist. This is starkly true. Means of warfighting are just that and the winner writes the history. We have some of the most efficient and well-trained guerillas on our own payroll- our Special Forces- who might or might not be viewed as terrorists depending on how you want to define terrorism. But confusing terrorism with guerilla warfare is just stupid and historically inaccurate.

The Colonists were terrorists. The French freedom fighters during WWII were terrorists, as were the OSS that we sent to help them. The contras in Nicaragua were terrorists. The Afghans that we supported against the Soviets were terrorists (still are, have you noticed?).

Terrorism and guerilla war are just means to wage war. How they are used and whether they are used in a good cause is more to the point than whether there is something inherently evil about those tactics. It can be argued that the bombing of Dresden or of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrorist acts. But that does not address whether they were legitimate acts of war or whether they were necessary for the greater good." (solar, Philosophically Handicapped Degree in political science, Daytona Beach News-Journal Message Board, July 2003)

We can go back and look at argument after argument, before we knew about the Obamanation, where "liberals" supported terrorism as "playing by the rules of warfare."

Whatever their "greater good" is, "by any means necessary" is legal for their "freedom fighters," and if our troops open up into the crowd to defend themselves from the civilian disguised Ayers, or they shoot a French car that does not stop because the last car had an Ayers' bomb, it is the "liberal" scum that scream the loudest and blame those who want to enfranchise and free people from tyranny.
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Really? His "go-to man? What proof do you have that Ayers and Obama shared such a close bond?
Kurtz reports the CAC archives demonstrate Obama and Ayers worked as a team to further the foundation's agenda. Obama was in charge of fiscal matters, while Ayers' position was more concerned with shaping educational policy.

Obama worked closely with terrorist Bill Ayers
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Re: Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists

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What if you were with someone smoking the crack was my point.
But that would be illegal, which was my point. As long as the activity that is actually being engaged in is legal then I don't see the problem.

If this terrorist guy isn't doing terrorist stuff anymore then even if he talks about violent revolution I don't see the problem because that's free speech which is still legal.
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Kurtz reports the CAC archives demonstrate Obama and Ayers worked as a team to further the foundation's agenda. Obama was in charge of fiscal matters, while Ayers' position was more concerned with shaping educational policy.

Obama worked closely with terrorist Bill Ayers
What CAC archives demonstrate this? I have heard from a number of articles that suggest some CAC archives suggest that they worked closely together. The CAC has a very interesting board of directors setup if the board members have hands on involvement in the foundations affairs and work closely with each other. Boards tend to be financial and strategic approval and consist of members experts in their fields.

I initially question the thought of "they were on a board together so they worked closely". Boards generally don't interact more then a few times a year. I am on the board of two foundations here in San Diego and don't know half the other board members outside of the board meetings other then their reputation.
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What CAC archives demonstrate this? I have heard from a number of articles that suggest some CAC archives suggest that they worked closely together. The CAC has a very interesting board of directors setup if the board members have hands on involvement in the foundations affairs and work closely with each other. Boards tend to be financial and strategic approval and consist of members experts in their fields.

I initially question the thought of "they were on a board together so they worked closely". Boards generally don't interact more then a few times a year. I am on the board of two foundations here in San Diego and don't know half the other board members outside of the board meetings other then their reputation.
I've posted plenty of links in this thread that show not only a profession relationship, but a social one as well. Seek, and ye shall find.
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The offender is unrepentant and not reformed. Ayers simply knows he can move his ideal foward better by indoctrination of the youth.
Prove it. No one in this thread has yet to prove this statement, though it's been made many times.
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Prove it. No one in this thread has yet to prove this statement, though it's been made many times.
You should download a google toolbar to your browser.

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Especially if you go to these kinds of forums.
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You should download a google toolbar to your browser.

google toolbar - Google Search

Especially if you go to these kinds of forums.
Or you could prove me wrong, which is what I asked.
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Or you could prove me wrong, which is what I asked.
I wasn't involved in your discussion. I'm just giving out helpful tips!

Seriously, "Ayers" "unrepentant"

Google.

It's easy.
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I wasn't involved in your discussion. I'm just giving out helpful tips!

Seriously, "Ayers" "unrepentant"

Google.

It's easy.
Please re-read the post of mine you quoted. I'm asking for someone to prove that Ayers is indoctrinating our youth. If you can't do that, don't quote the post asking people to do so.
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