Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists

sazerac · 10-10-08, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Ayers hadn't said anything about being unrepenatent until after 9/11. Afterwards, Obama finished his term on the committee and had no further associations with him, except perhaps running into in the neighborhood.

What's McCain's excuse for accepting money from his old pal G. Gordon Liddy, the unrepenatent Watergate felon and terrorist plotter?

Why do you excuse McCain's associations? Why do you hold Obama to a different standard.

I see Gordon Liddy every day on tv commercials for insurance. He did something stupid and illegal and spent 4 1/2 years in prison. It seems shocking to some people that he suggested they shoot anybody trying to take their guns away. Having lived through Katrina I couldn't agree with him more!

GottaHurt · 10-10-08, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz

Oh I don't doubt that he has radical political views or whatever. Look at guys like Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn, there pretty radical, but it doesn't mean they are going to blow anything up. I'm just trying to understand what the problem is with this guy in the eyes of those that are actually upset about him. If the problem is that he once threatened violence, but he isn't doing that anymore then I'm a little lost as to why any one is concerned.

The concern is why Obama is lying about his association with Ayers.

If Ayers is now reformed and just working as an educator, why does Obama go to such great lengths to seperate himself from the guy?

The more you dig, the more you find out about Obama's associations with some pretty shady characters. These characters aren't just accidental run ins, these are people that Obama has consistently been involved with.

I linked Bill Ayers & Rashid Khalidi for you, do some research and dig, if you really want the truth.

Running into someone in your neighborhood or grocery store is one thing, serving on several committees, teaching at the same universities and attending social events is more than just a coincidence.

winston53660 · 10-10-08, 10:19 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/op...on&oref=slogin

Prosecuting Weathermen
Published: October 9, 2008

To the Editor:

As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.

Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.

William C. Ibershof

Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008

Reverend_Hellh0und · 10-10-08, 10:22 AM

William C. Ibershof is soft on crime.

My guess is he is a registered democrat.

"Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen."

Well if that is not contradictory....

Kayleigh Katz · 10-10-08, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaHurt

The concern is why Obama is lying about his association with Ayers.

If Ayers is now reformed and just working as an educator, why does Obama go to such great lengths to seperate himself from the guy?

I didn't know he was going to any great lengths to distance himself. My impression was that Hillary tried the same smear and it didn't stick, which sort of inoculated Obama against the attack.

Truth Detector · 10-10-08, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by winston53660

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/op...on&oref=slogin

Prosecuting Weathermen
Published: October 9, 2008

To the Editor:

As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child.

Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen.

Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago.

I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director.

William C. Ibershof

Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008

Clue to ALL Liberals and William Ibershof: NO ONE is linking Obama to Ayers terrorist activities 40 years ago. They are questioning Obama's judgment by working WITH an UNREPENTENT terrorist TODAY.

Where did I put those darn crayons that I use to communicate with twits?

Kayleigh Katz · 10-10-08, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

"Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen."

Well if that is not contradictory....

Is it?

I dearly wished the stock market would go up (I like money), but I'm very pleased to learn that I'll make a killing buying stock in good companies at bargain bin prices (I like money).

Is that contradictory? The same idea is served by both sentiments. If Ibershof wanted a safer society doesn't he get it either with a successful prosecution or the offender reformed?

GottaHurt · 10-10-08, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz

I didn't know he was going to any great lengths to distance himself. My impression was that Hillary tried the same smear and it didn't stick, which sort of inoculated Obama against the attack.

I've given you the links needed to get started, if you really want to seek out the truth, start with the links.

GottaHurt · 10-10-08, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Truth Detector

Clue to ALL Liberals and William Ibershof: NO ONE is linking Obama to Ayers terrorist activities 40 years ago. They are questioning Obama's judgment by working WITH an UNREPENTENT terrorist TODAY.

Where did I put those darn crayons that I use to communicate with twits?

Bravo

Reverend_Hellh0und · 10-10-08, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kayleigh Katz

Is it?

I dearly wished the stock market would go up (I like money), but I'm very pleased to learn that I'll make a killing buying stock in good companies at bargain bin prices (I like money).

Ford is at 2.25

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Is that contradictory? The same idea is served by both sentiments. If Ibershof wanted a safer society doesn't he get it either with a successful prosecution or the offender reformed?

The offender is unrepentant and not reformed. Ayers simply knows he can move his ideal foward better by indoctrination of the youth.

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winston53660 Sage Join Date: Sep 2007 Last Seen: Today 06:37 PM Posts: 9,036 Thanks: 674 Thanked 2,241 Times in 1,602 Posts	Re: Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/10/op...on&oref=slogin Prosecuting Weathermen Published: October 9, 2008 To the Editor: As the lead federal prosecutor of the Weathermen in the 1970s (I was then chief of the criminal division in the Eastern District of Michigan and took over the Weathermen prosecution in 1972), I am amazed and outraged that Senator Barack Obama is being linked to William Ayers’s terrorist activities 40 years ago when Mr. Obama was, as he has noted, just a child. Although I dearly wanted to obtain convictions against all the Weathermen, including Bill Ayers, I am very pleased to learn that he has become a responsible citizen. Because Senator Obama recently served on a board of a charitable organization with Mr. Ayers cannot possibly link the senator to acts perpetrated by Mr. Ayers so many years ago. I do take issue with the statement in your news article that the Weathermen indictment was dismissed because of “prosecutorial misconduct.” It was dismissed because of illegal activities, including wiretaps, break-ins and mail interceptions, initiated by John N. Mitchell, attorney general at that time, and W. Mark Felt, an F.B.I. assistant director. William C. Ibershof Mill Valley, Calif., Oct. 8, 2008
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