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Old 10-10-08, 08:09 AM   #371
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Re: Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists

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Ok then just to make sure I understand... you think he's still plotting violence, etc?
Hard to say what anybody is now plotting/thinking. You look at his history, associations and now his involvement with radical organizations.

Bill Ayers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

These days, few people are going to come right out and tell the media what their ulterior motives are, or advertise their agendas. To suggest that left wing radicals and islamic extremists aren't in teaching positions at our universities is ridiculous.

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Here's a research paper on Khalidi and has further links.

http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-lpDmr...xw-?cq=1&p=374

Your best bet here at DP. Do the research, and don't let peoples unsupported opinion sway you. Unsupported in this case, is watch for people who constantly throw around "facts", yet never provide a link to back up those facts.
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Old 10-10-08, 08:10 AM   #372
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I'm just saying, you know... my family was kind of crazy in the 60s and 70s, too.
It was a crazy time. it's really not relevant to today. It was so long ago. What are you gonna do, persecute a bunch of middle-aged/ elderly people because they were radicals and extremists in their teens or college years? It's ancient history.
Some of the laws back then were stupid, and needed to be changed, and were.
It was an era that lent itself to radical idealism, to extremism.
That's a good point.

The thing is, if Repbublicans were honest and said Obama had limited contacts with a tenured college professor who has worked in community programs that help the poor for years who was a radical 40 years ago in his 20s, it wouldn't have the same smear factor.

So why would they do that?
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Old 10-10-08, 08:43 AM   #373
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That's a good point.

The thing is, if Repbublicans were honest and said Obama had limited contacts with a tenured college professor who has worked in community programs that help the poor for years who was a radical 40 years ago in his 20s, it wouldn't have the same smear factor.

So why would they do that?




Gee you make this terrorist sound like a good guy....



Why do you defend terrorists?




Correct definition.

He is an unrepentant former terrorist who uses charity to push foward his anti-American ideals who in 1992 on connie chung said he "did not do enough" when it came to his groups bomnbings of the pentegon and the capital and killing of police officers yet obama somehow did not know of this savages past in 1995 when ayers held a coming out party for Obama in his home....
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Old 10-10-08, 08:55 AM   #374
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Re: Palin says Obama 'palling around' with terrorists

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That's a good point.

The thing is, if Repbublicans were honest and said Obama had limited contacts with a tenured college professor who has worked in community programs that help the poor for years who was a radical 40 years ago in his 20s, it wouldn't have the same smear factor.

So why would they do that?
Why do we care anything about what this guy does for a living or how long ago this happened. As far as I'm concerned, until the guy apologizes and stops saying he wishes he'd done more harm, he is still an active terrorist.

Obama's only excuse would be to say he had no idea who this person was. But it seems our future president doesn't think radical terrorists against the US are so bad.
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Old 10-10-08, 09:12 AM   #375
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Gee you make this terrorist sound like a good guy....
Being involved in community organization to help the poor is a good thing, IMO.

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Why do you defend terrorists?

He is an unrepentant former terrorist ...
I don't think I defended him at all, except that IMO being involved in community organization to help the poor is a good thing.
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Old 10-10-08, 09:15 AM   #376
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Being involved in community organization to help the poor is a good thing, IMO.



I don't think I defended him at all, except that IMO being involved in community organization to help the poor is a good thing.



What specifically did he do in regards to "community organization". links please.


And yes you defended him by downplaying his terrorism and making excuses for the savage.
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Why do we care anything about what this guy does for a living or how long ago this happened. As far as I'm concerned, until the guy apologizes and stops saying he wishes he'd done more harm, he is still an active terrorist.

Obama's only excuse would be to say he had no idea who this person was. But it seems our future president doesn't think radical terrorists against the US are so bad.
Ayers hadn't said anything about being unrepenatent until after 9/11. Afterwards, Obama finished his term on the committee and had no further associations with him, except perhaps running into in the neighborhood.

What's McCain's excuse for accepting money from his old pal G. Gordon Liddy, the unrepenatent Watergate felon and terrorist plotter?


Why do you excuse McCain's associations? Why do you hold Obama to a different standard.
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Old 10-10-08, 09:17 AM   #378
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To suggest that left wing radicals and islamic extremists aren't in teaching positions at our universities is ridiculous.
Oh I don't doubt that he has radical political views or whatever. Look at guys like Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn, there pretty radical, but it doesn't mean they are going to blow anything up. I'm just trying to understand what the problem is with this guy in the eyes of those that are actually upset about him. If the problem is that he once threatened violence, but he isn't doing that anymore then I'm a little lost as to why any one is concerned.
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Ayers hadn't said anything about being unrepenatent until after 9/11. Afterwards, Obama finished his term on the committee and had no further associations with him, except perhaps running into in the neighborhood.
Uhm 9-11 was in 2001, As late as a few months ago, he had people calling the man "honorable" on his website.

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What's McCain's excuse for accepting money from his old pal G. Gordon Liddy, the unrepenatent Watergate felon and terrorist plotter?
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Why do you excuse McCain's associations? Why do you hold Obama to a different standard.
What did liddy bomb again? didnt he serve his time? and where are his statments of being "unrepentant"...

Keep trying to deflect from talking about Obama's lovefest with an unrepentant terrorist!
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if he were a TERRORIST! wouldn't he be in jail instead of running around loose?
The entire terrorist organization was given amnesty by a known terrorist sympathizer who also commuted G. Gordon Liddy's sentence and who could also be seen palling around at the Obamanation's Democrat National Convention.

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