Debate Politics Forums forum
Go Back   Debate Politics Forums > Debate Politics Forum > Archives



 
 
LinkBack (1) Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-27-08, 10:44 PM   #1
Advisor
 
rebelbuc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Last Seen: 03-18-10 11:10 AM
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 509
Thanks: 784
Thanked 213 Times in 132 Posts
Lean: Conservative
Gender: Male
idea Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

The present financial crisis, on the surface, appears to be greatly due to poor decisions by greedy lending institutions. However, many of these institutions were coerced by US government policies such as the Community Reinvestment Act and the beefing up of the CRA during the Clinton presidency. John McCain, along with several other Republicans, did indeed try to warn of the potential looming crisis, however, Democrats stood in their way at every turn. The video link below makes a lot valid points. Obama tried to blame this on the Bush administration, but the Democrats thwarted Bush's attempt to put tougher controls on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Obama attempts to trump McCain on this issue while McCain made the greatest attempts to warn people of this looming crisis. This video provides links to support its fast-paced story with facts!

What caused the economic crisis?
__________________
"The Earth has a fever!"... I guess it does - political correctness and socialism are making the planet sick!
rebelbuc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 09-27-08, 10:46 PM   #2
2X Assheimer's Award winn

 
DeeJayH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Last Seen: 01-14-10 08:05 PM
Location: Scooping Zeus' Poop
Posts: 11,622
Thanks: 5,804
Thanked 1,685 Times in 1,228 Posts
Lean: Conservative
Gender: Male
Re: Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

Barney Frank? what do i win?
__________________

Human Taxidermist - - now offering his services for all your loved ones
Quote:
Originally Posted by jallman View Post
How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.
DeeJayH is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 09-28-08, 04:52 AM   #3
aps
Passionate

 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Last Seen: Today 06:24 AM
Posts: 15,099
Thanks: 5,791
Thanked 2,736 Times in 1,757 Posts
Lean: Liberal
Gender: Female

Translator Award:  Official DeeJayH translator. 
Total Awards: 1

Re: Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
The present financial crisis, on the surface, appears to be greatly due to poor decisions by greedy lending institutions. However, many of these institutions were coerced by US government policies such as the Community Reinvestment Act and the beefing up of the CRA during the Clinton presidency. John McCain, along with several other Republicans, did indeed try to warn of the potential looming crisis, however, Democrats stood in their way at every turn. The video link below makes a lot valid points. Obama tried to blame this on the Bush administration, but the Democrats thwarted Bush's attempt to put tougher controls on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Obama attempts to trump McCain on this issue while McCain made the greatest attempts to warn people of this looming crisis. This video provides links to support its fast-paced story with facts!

What caused the economic crisis?
Do you live in the same United States I do?

Your spinning is really pathetic.

Signed,

A liberal bedwetter who is still stunned that a 55-year-old man wrote that liberals were bedwetters. If my father ever wrote something like that, I would ask him to seek mental health.
aps is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 09-28-08, 09:49 AM   #4
Adventurer/Bon Vivant


 
sazerac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Last Seen: Yesterday 06:20 PM
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 2,038
Thanks: 1,575
Thanked 604 Times in 395 Posts
Lean: Moderate
Gender: Male
Re: Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

Here's another video.

YouTube - Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis
sazerac is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 09-28-08, 09:53 AM   #5
Call the amber lamps
Mod team member

Trampoline Tricks 2 Champion, Japanese Baseball Champion, Aski Champion
 
WI Crippler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Last Seen: Today 10:26 AM
Location: Where the sun doesn't shine
Posts: 13,150
Thanks: 2,812
Thanked 7,366 Times in 3,876 Posts
Lean: Independent
Gender: Male

Tavern Bartender Veteran:  Thank you. Moderation Team:  Thank you!! US Marines:  Served 5 years active duty in the United States Marine Corps. Veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom. 
Total Awards: 3

Re: Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

Its a bit of both I am afraid.
__________________
"We have people like that in our world too. People who say that freedom is no longer practical, that we must surrender it for a greater common good."

"Fear them....They tolerate tyranny, excuse it, compromise with it. In doing so they always bring savagery and death upon the rest of us".
-Terry Goodkind Law of Nines
WI Crippler is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 09-28-08, 10:20 AM   #6
Advisor
 
rebelbuc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Last Seen: 03-18-10 11:10 AM
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 509
Thanks: 784
Thanked 213 Times in 132 Posts
Lean: Conservative
Gender: Male
Talking Re: Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

Quote:
Originally Posted by aps View Post
Do you live in the same United States I do?

Your spinning is really pathetic.

Signed,

A liberal bedwetter who is still stunned that a 55-year-old man wrote that liberals were bedwetters. If my father ever wrote something like that, I would ask him to seek mental health.
I'm sorry, Aps, that you took it personally that I used the term "bedwetting liberal". Ever since I heard a libertarian talk show host use the term I thought it was so often appropriate. Think about it - liberals are so often very young, idealistic people who are misguided by their blind trust in demigoguing politicians who take advantage of these liberals' good intentions.

How can you look at the video, go to the cited sources (did you even take the time?), look at the second video that someone just put up, and call it my spin? Are there republicans who bear some responsibility for the current financial crisis... certainly! But, those were the few republicans who abandoned their unpopular stances and jumped on the Democrat bandwagon. Even the so called "evil" George Bush, and certainly Senator McCain, tried to increase oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac years ago as they headed towards disaster. But look at the two videos and notice that the majority of Democrats simply demogogued the issue and claimed that these nasty Republicans were just trying to take away housing opportunities from poor people... Obama uses a similar tactic today every chance he gets!

And that, my dear, is what makes a liberal a bedwetter!
__________________
"The Earth has a fever!"... I guess it does - political correctness and socialism are making the planet sick!
rebelbuc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 09-28-08, 10:28 AM   #7
Advisor
 
rebelbuc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Last Seen: 03-18-10 11:10 AM
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 509
Thanks: 784
Thanked 213 Times in 132 Posts
Lean: Conservative
Gender: Male
Talking Re: Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

Also, another word about Republicans, Democrats, oversight, and the desire for less government regulation:

As a conservative who is not happy with many of the decisions that Republicans have made in recent years, and practically every decision that Democrats have made, I often see in these forums "I thought that you conservatives were against excessive regulation by the government...". I do believe that, generally, the free market and capitalism make our country stronger, but not when Democrats and other misguided politicians bend the rules so badly that it trashes the free market system and our economy. Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the current financial crisis comprise the best example that I can think of! Just look at the videos!
__________________
"The Earth has a fever!"... I guess it does - political correctness and socialism are making the planet sick!
rebelbuc is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 09-28-08, 10:59 AM   #8
Educator

 
Panther's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Last Seen: 10-27-08 03:38 PM
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,214
Thanks: 95
Thanked 371 Times in 271 Posts
Lean: Moderate
Gender: Male
Re: Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
Also, another word about Republicans, Democrats, oversight, and the desire for less government regulation:

As a conservative who is not happy with many of the decisions that Republicans have made in recent years, and practically every decision that Democrats have made, I often see in these forums "I thought that you conservatives were against excessive regulation by the government...". I do believe that, generally, the free market and capitalism make our country stronger, but not when Democrats and other misguided politicians bend the rules so badly that it trashes the free market system and our economy. Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the current financial crisis comprise the best example that I can think of! Just look at the videos!
When the government decides to inject itself into the free market system to the point that it can drastically impact it, there's not a conservative around that wouldn't want those entities heavily regulated.
__________________
Anagrams: Joe Biden and Barack Obama =
A jerk and a bad, anemic boob.
- or -
Barack mad a babe joined on.
Panther is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 09-28-08, 11:16 AM   #9
Student
 
Gabby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Last Seen: 04-29-09 06:59 PM
Posts: 281
Thanks: 157
Thanked 114 Times in 81 Posts
Lean: Conservative
Re: Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

This whole thing makes me insanely angry. And I'm so tired of those who cannot think past their noses, trying to say this is Bush's failed economy. It's so much deeper than that, but unfortunately, most Americans don't delve into it enough and are blinded by rhetoric because it sounds right and makes them feel good.

There are a lot of hands in this mess and Barney Frank and others who have been in bed with these evil CEOs for years would have us believe they are saving our asses right now. Sure, they have to bail them out because otherwise there would be an uproar and a lot of fingerpointing, right back to Frank and others. The CEOs are willing to be the fall guys as long as Frank and others protect their pockets. But Frank will take the mike and look you in the eye and tell you he's saving YOU and protecting YOU. Bunch of freakin' liars. That's all they are. Liars. And we're giving them hundreds of billions as a reward.
Gabby is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Old 09-28-08, 11:21 AM   #10
Banned
 
Iriemon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Last Seen: 12-21-09 09:18 AM
Location: Miami
Posts: 19,405
Thanks: 1,415
Thanked 2,223 Times in 1,524 Posts
Re: Democrats or Republicans - who is most to blame in the financial crisis?

Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
The present financial crisis, on the surface, appears to be greatly due to poor decisions by greedy lending institutions. However, many of these institutions were coerced by US government policies such as the Community Reinvestment Act and the beefing up of the CRA during the Clinton presidency. John McCain, along with several other Republicans, did indeed try to warn of the potential looming crisis, however, Democrats stood in their way at every turn. The video link below makes a lot valid points. Obama tried to blame this on the Bush administration, but the Democrats thwarted Bush's attempt to put tougher controls on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. Obama attempts to trump McCain on this issue while McCain made the greatest attempts to warn people of this looming crisis. This video provides links to support its fast-paced story with facts!
Let's see, the Repbublicans controlled the House, the Senate, and the executive for 6 years, from 2000-06.

But its the Dems fault.

Of course.
Iriemon is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Reddit!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
 

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/36969-democrats-republicans-most-blame-financial-crisis.html
Posted By For Type Date
Another Pelosi Lie: “White House officials prevented Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson from alerting Congress sooner of the looming economic crisis” | Right Voices Post #93 Pingback 10-18-08 08:13 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:34 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO
Debate Politics.com Copyright ©2004-2009
no new posts