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Re: Biden garbles Depression history

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Bush mispeaks so often its not even noteworthy, because its expected of him.

Biden's statement is accurate in the larger sense, unless you take a literalistic view of "when the stock market crashed" to mean the day it crashed.

When FDR took office, it was still crashed.
Well, even so, FDR would have made the comments on the radio, no?

FDR was the first president to appear on television, but it wasn't until the 1939 World's Fair in New York.

So it still seems pretty dumb to me.
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Well, even so, FDR would have made the comments on the radio, no?

FDR was the first president to appear on television, but it wasn't until the 1939 World's Fair in New York.

So it still seems pretty dumb to me.
At least if some reporter asks him about the Bush Doctrine he'll know what the hey they're talking about.
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Re: Biden garbles Depression history

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Well, even so, FDR would have made the comments on the radio, no?

FDR was the first president to appear on television, but it wasn't until the 1939 World's Fair in New York.

So it still seems pretty dumb to me.
Yeah that's true, FDR made the radio "fireside chats" famous. Biden was apparenlty more focused on the analogy he was making regarding action in a troubled economy than concentrating on the accuracy of the historical details.

Frankly, I'd be much more interested on Biden's take regarding addressing the current economic situation and is analogy to what FDR did. But apparently folks thing the fact he misstated historical detail is the more important issue.

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Re: Biden garbles Depression history

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Bush mispeaks so often its not even noteworthy, because its expected of him.

Biden's statement is accurate in the larger sense, unless you take a literalistic view of "when the stock market crashed" to mean the day it crashed.

When FDR took office, it was still crashed.



Man imagine if you gave bush the same benefit of the doubg you give biden,
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Man imagine if you gave bush the same benefit of the doubg you give biden,
If Bush ever put four sentences together off the cuff, I would.
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I have never seen Bush go out and talk to crowds or answer reporters questions or sit down and be interviewed without looking down at his paper.
He is getting better at memorization, but I can't understand what folks see in a robot President.
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Re: Biden garbles Depression history

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Man imagine if you gave bush the same benefit of the doubg you give biden,
Imagine if Bush's only faults had been occassionally misstating an irrelevant historical detail while making another point.

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Yeah that's true, FDR made the radio "fireside chats" famous. Biden was apparenlty more focused on the analogy he was making regarding action in a troubled economy than concentrating on the accuracy of the historical details.

Frankly, I'd be much more interested on Biden's take regarding addressing the current economic situation and is analogy to what FDR did. But apparently folks thing the fact he misstated historical detail is the more important issue.

Here's the thing, though. The main point of contention I have is with the eniter statemnt by Biden

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Part of what being a leader does is to instill confidence is to demonstrate what he or she knows what they are talking about and to communicating to people ... this is how we can fix this. When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed. He said, 'look, here's what happened.'
Yes, telling people what happene dis important, but even more importatn is being goddmaned accurate when you do it. Any assclown can say what happened and be wrong. A leader has the duty and obligation to be accuratre whehn they say how things went down. Given the context of the statemnt regarding leaders tellign the truth, I believe accuracy is pretty goddamned important. More important that simply stating what you think happened.

We've alreadt got enough people feeding us innacurate bull****. A leader shouldn't do that.

I apply the same logic to all candiates. A mistatement is one thing, but in the context of this particular statement and the import of it's meaning, any mistatement of fact is extremely stupid. And it contains two.

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