Reverend_Hellh0und

We have not seen any uptick in this area on any of our clients.

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American

You can put lipstick on a Yahoo, but it's still a Yahoo.

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ADK_Forever

Here's one article on it: Hack of Palin e-mail makes case for sticking with .gov account

In addition to making passwords more secure (upper and lower case letters, #s, special chars, no words assoc'd with you, 8+ length) this should also be a lesson on those secret questions used to reset passwords. Select answers that aren't true but, that you'll remember. Write them down and file somewhere in case you need them.

I wonder if many will make their computer accounts more secure from this story? Anyone for an over/under bet?

Kernel Sanders

Good idea - I may start doing that, although I somehow doubt that it is necessary for your average joe. Palin was specifically targeted, which is hard to fight against. Most of the account security techniques are to guard agains brute-force attacks

PeteEU

And I have been involved in computers since 1979.

Oh lets see.

So you are saying that all the security software, free and pay versions are just junk and do not do anything!? Do you want us to stop using them or something? Do you also have unprotected sex with strangers?

Listen, the harmful viral community is always a step ahead of the anti viral community, that's how it is. But if you have some expertise with security, then you would be promoting as much anti spy/malware as possible and promote not going on to "suspect sites" and downloading stuff or clicking on files in emails. Funny how you do not mention that, but instead go head on in how "hard" it is to detect trojans and what not.

Do you really think that she was targeted with some new super dupper trojan that the anti viral software available on the market does not know about? Chances are, if it was a trojan, it would be a known entity, and that she like so many many many people had no anti spy/malware software installed, and if she had it was probably not updated. If you are a person with some expertise in the security aspect you would know that a huge portion of "normal" people do not live up to the basic security recommendations that the industry recommends. I see it every day btw, people not having updated anti viral, anti spy/malware and even Windows machines, and they wonder why their mouse moves across the screen on its own.

Yes computer security is never 100%, I never claimed that and will never claim that. However there are some systems that are more secure than others, and I would wager that Palin's computer is not as secure as Yahoo's systems. If Yahoo had issues, do you not think we would have heard about it?

As for GMail. It is still in beta, and if you knew just a bit about it, you would know that it was started in 2004 (that's 4 years ago), and was only on an invite bases until last year when it was opened up to all. Yahoo has been around for far longer. Any vulnerability in Gmail that I know of has been corrected. However I am also anti online mail systems for anything important as its too risky.

Is it? If you were involved in the computer security industry, you would know that one of the biggest vulnerabilities is passwords not being complex enough and easily guessable. By guess, with out looking at the recent revelations, is that this is what made the "hacker" get in. She probably had a childs name in the password or something similar. And don't tell me people do not do that. I busted my own father, who has been involved with computers longer than me, having a password consisting of my name and another family member. And he still hears about it, 10 years after the fact.

Oh so you admit reading all 11.000 emails, not to mention possible committing a crime?

Well you surely do not know much, or are so blinded by partisanship that your professional judgement is impaired.

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scourge99

Bring it!

Depends on your delivery method. Yes, most trojan infections are random because the malware is simply attached to a public file but I can just as easily load a trojan on your comp via flashdrive, cd just by plugging it in. Also, email works great. Or if I'm feeling bold I can try port accesses or buffer overflow methods from know bugs in programs on your PC (java programs, jpegs, gifs, word files, etc). Possibilties are endless especially for social engineering attacks.


I doubt it too. But there are other easy methods. Most email browsing is NOT encrypted (IE its not https or the router your using doesn't encrypt its wifi). This means that if you log onto your email with your wireless connection I can easily sniff your packet off the air and voila, thanks for your password and username.. We proved this effective against gmail accounts at ASU.

I doubt it too.

I was never implying what method was used. I'm merely debunking Pete's assertions that
1) Only idiots get hacked
2) Everything is safe in "secure" software.

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Hatuey

Well....at least...... she proves she's a Republican by trusting business and not the government.

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JMak

A lot of things scare the hell out of a lot people. That doesn't make their fear rational and reasonable.

I recall many people being scared to death that the Patriot Act somehow threatened their library records. Of course, the Patriot Act didn't change anything in regard to library records.

I recall that recently people expressing fear of Palin because she supposedly banned books and fired a librarian for not banning books. Of course, Palin neither banned books or fired a librarian for not banning books.

Well, then, why are you asking anything about a position you have no idea about?

Ok.

It seems that within your comments there was a suggestion that FISA was bad law because you questioned whether Palin would change her mind on that law because of this incident and the only reason she might change her mind based on this incident is that this incident could be perceived as demonstrating the threat of arbitrary eavesdropping aka as Bushevism's.

Ok. I think I get it now. You really meant Patriot Act when you referred to FISA.

I'm new so I'm slow, I guess.

American

Yup, you were an expert before Bill Gates was even born. Back in those days you had to walk barefoot through the snow to the computer room, up hill both ways.

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