Obama Tried To Stall Gis' Iraq Withdrawal

Reverend_Hellh0und · 09-15-08, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat

Very unlikely that the "anti-Christ" will ever exist.

not in any form?

SouthernDemocrat · 09-15-08, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

not in any form?

I guess if one is a biblical literalist, then they are going to be looking for some literal individual that is literally the anti-christ. I am not a biblical literalist though.

As to the actual subject of the thread. It seems that we only have a New York Tabloid making this claim. Whether one agrees with Obama's ideology or not, by all accounts he seems to be a decent individual and a man of integrity, thus I find this claim extremely hard to believe. In fact, I don't believe it at all.

ADK_Forever · 09-15-08, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat

As to the actual subject of the thread. It seems that we only have a New York Tabloid making this claim. Whether one agrees with Obama's ideology or not, by all accounts he seems to be a decent individual and a man of integrity, thus I find this claim extremely hard to believe. In fact, I don't believe it at all.

The other link was to a page full of links to Fox Noise pages. So, we have no reputable sources. I suspect this is another Rove strategy. It has his stench all over it.

SouthernDemocrat · 09-15-08, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ADK_Forever

The other link was to a page full of links to Fox Noise pages. So, we have no reputable sources. I suspect this is another Rove strategy. It has his stench all over it.

When I clicked the other link no results came up. I then did a Google News search and only found references to it on right wing blogs and a couple of tabloids.

Hard core right wingers never can make an election about actual issues. The last time the Republicans actually ran an issues campaign was 1980.

bhkad · 09-15-08, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibberish

Nothing you said has any factual claim.

Who are you trying to kid? No one in this day and age really has that level of naivete, Gibberish.

Isn't that the sign of a masterful sneak?

He leaves no clues or incriminating evidence.

You seem to feel that if he can get past a "Little Rascals" level of scrutiny that he deserves to get away with stealing the Presidency.

SouthernDemocrat · 09-15-08, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Who are you trying to kid? No one in this day and age really has that level of naivete, Gibberish.

Isn't that the sign of a masterful sneak?

He leaves no clues or incriminating evidence.

You seem to feel that if he can get past a "Little Rascals" level of scrutiny that he deserves to get away with stealing the Presidency.

So your saying that its ok to smear a decent individual even if you have no evidence because of course, that individual would be smart enough to leave no evidence?

One of the diagnostic criteria for Paranoid Personality Disorder is:

"Suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her"

Pitwolfy · 09-15-08, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GottaHurt

Obama better pray to Allah it's not true. This blogger raises an interesting point:

This is huge, folks. This is Logan Act type stuff. The Logan Act reads:

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

All American Blogger Obama on Iraq Withdrawal: Can We Hold Off On This ‘Til I’m President?

I agree !!! Think I'll sit back and revel for a while

bhkad · 09-15-08, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat

So your saying that its ok to smear a decent individual even if you have no evidence because of course, that individual would be smart enough to leave no evidence?

One of the diagnostic criteria for Paranoid Personality Disorder is:

"Suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her"

But IT IS acceptable, and is a common interrogation technique to use the suspicions based on evidence to help motivate someone to tell the truth.

If he fails to tell the truth then he must believe that the smearing is preferable to coming clean.

It isn't that his version is different from an alleged version, it's that he refuses to reveal any details or be interviewed at length about any of the matters in question and not only won't he discuss those years but he has worked some voodoo to prevent his fellows from those years being identified or even from coming forth.

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As the New York Times concedes, Obama "declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years."

Would that Bristol Palin could get off so easily!

Why Obama is mum about Harvard

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Yet he declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us...s/30obama.html

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America is poised to elect a man to the presidency whose known mentors and sponsors – al-Mansour, Rezko, Said, Wright, Ayers – put a lie to just about everything Obama has said on the campaign trail.

WorldNetDaily - A Free Press for a Free People

But, if this is all unfounded speculation all he needs to do is answer the questions. And that's the least we should expect of someone asking us to give him the keys to our nuclear arsenal.

bhkad · 09-15-08, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat

When I clicked the other link no results came up. I then did a Google News search and only found references to it on right wing blogs and a couple of tabloids.

Hard core right wingers never can make an election about actual issues. The last time the Republicans actually ran an issues campaign was 1980.

Character matters.

Truth matters.

Transparency in the resumes and histories of our highest elected officials matters.

You want so much to buy this pig in a poke you are fighting us all to be as uninformed as you insist on remaining.

If self delusion is your thing, do it as a solitary endeavor. Stop trying to cover everyone else's eyes.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 09-16-08, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat

I guess if one is a biblical literalist, then they are going to be looking for some literal individual that is literally the anti-christ. I am not a biblical literalist though.

ahh, what about if one is an lets say athiest. does it the anti-christ exist in any form?

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As to the actual subject of the thread. It seems that we only have a New York Tabloid making this claim. Whether one agrees with Obama's ideology or not, by all accounts he seems to be a decent individual and a man of integrity, thus I find this claim extremely hard to believe. In fact, I don't believe it at all.

man put his name to it. lets wait and see.

but you do agree if true this is a bad thing right?

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