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I already have the answer, it's Bush's fault.



I have to hand it Pilot though, he's the first person lately to speak of the Bush Admin as a success. BTW, did you misspell the word 'sig'?

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Panther

I feel for you. I have the same problem when discussing the fact that alien beings are invading our minds when we sleep. Not one person has been able to come up with any definitive proof that they aren't, yet nobody concedes that I'm correct.

Oh, the simple-minded masses.

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GottaHurt

sig = signature. Kind of an old school gamer so sometimes I abbreviate.

QQ = complain.

If you're really interested, Google leet speak, if nothing else, you'll be able to halfway understand what your kids are actually saying...lol...it's a must if you play MMORPG's where chat channels are an integral part of the game.

I play World of Warcraft - 10-Day Free Trial, it's a blast, and cheap entertainment for $15.00 a month. Careful though, it's addicting.

Coolio

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Harshaw

Pretty sure I didn't say a thing about McCain or Rove, only about your assertion that making the argument that someone is "unprepared" is the same as saying the "message" is invalid. Logically, it isn't.

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Pilots For 911 Truth

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Originally Posted by Harshaw Pretty sure I didn't say a thing about McCain or Rove, only about your assertion that making the argument that someone is "unprepared" is the same as saying the "message" is invalid. Logically, it isn't.

And, likewise, I'm certain that I never asserted as much, because doing so would make me just as illogical - and I try to avoid that.

When you select a Vice President, you are at the very same time selecting the next constitutionally transitioned President, should you not be able to perform your duties at anytime during your Presidency. Thus, The People, need to know that your selection has Presidential Competency. When you fail to properly establish that in the minds of The People, you have in essence failed your first most important test as the President. Obama passed this test with flying colors. McCain failed this test miserably. That's the sub-point.

On the primary-point of this thread, I knew there would be no logical reply to counter the initial premise; that McCain is following Obama around the country like a lap dog. Licking-up Obama's original message of change. Each day, McCain sounds more and more like Obama on that point.

Before, (for McCain) it was all about being prepared to enter the White House, ready to govern on the first day. Now, with the Palin 'pick', it is all about bringing 'change to Washington'. What's next? Constitutional Reform for McCain?

Since I have not yet taken delivery of my new hi-tech Aston Martin, complete with R8 missiles, rear mounted cannon and high intensity argon laser headlights, I think it is safe to say that John McCain is no change agent. He's a very good illusionist, so too are David Blain and Criss Angel; but neither of them would be considered Presidential material.

I'm still not Bond.

Harshaw

Your words were:

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Pilots For 911 Truth

Especially those who think they understand what they can't possibly understand for lack of direct, hands-on experience and knowledge. Try spelling the words: Northwoods Documents as a refresher course on what is possible and what has ALREADY been done. You seem to forget history and those that do, will always be subject to repeating it. When you are done with that, try spelling the words: Defense Planning Guidance as another refresher of things being done as well as those things having already been accomplished.

These documents are not 'legend', they are fact. Deal with it. They are not 'conspiracy', they are history. Deal with it. Either get off the fence, take the blinders off and educate yourself beyond that high school diploma and get informed (not misinformed) about the primary drivers of the world you live in. Things are not as they appear to be.

There are 'entities' that specialize in snowing you under a mountain of misdirection, such that you won't know Monday from Saturday, black from white, up from down, inside from outside, smaller commuter type jet to larger commercial passenger class jet at over 450 kts.

(if it were not so sad, seeing my country twisted in knots like this, it would actually be funny)

I guess, when one can only derive side-swiping commentary such as this, it precludes them from having to deal with any real debate on the merits/facts. If you knew 10% of what you proffer by insinuation, then you too would be outraged at 911, but for entirely different reasons.

I personally know of senior Captains and FO's who to this day are privately angry and very much on pins and needles about flying a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g under Part 121, 135 or 141 with Neoconservatives running the White House.

Now, why do you think that is so?

Stop pretending and either decide that you wish to learn what you don't already know, or that you wish to continue sticking your head in the sand. Either way, is fine by me. We've been 7+ years into this mess and there is far more than meets the eye going on here.

Trying to be cute and off the cuff, won't solve America's biggest problem since Pearl Harbor itself. This nation is at war, and you don't even know what the real enemy looks like.

Disagree, sure - I've got no beef with that - this is America. Just do so from a position of [b]concrete knowledge[b/] and awareness of what you say. I can detect the bull on this particular subject - that's why I prefer not to waste anymore time on it. Few people understand it well enough to debate it, let alone make decisions about it.

Is it ok if we get back to McCain chasing Obama around like a sick puppy, please.

Pilots For 911 Truth

And?

It is a question, not a declarative. You can question anything, but you cannot declare everything and still be correct. Question -vs- Declaration.

The follow-up to that was someone asking what unprepared had to do with 'preparation'. As if, I was describing them as having come from the same logical root.

Unprepared (the first cause false premise asserted by McCain against Obama), is in the context of McCain's original message before he got religion and became a 'change' agent (first effect of the first cause of Obama's message). Asking why he (McCain) would steal the change message, has nothing to do with assuming they are one in the same, or completely dissimilar. This is a classic Red Herring Nonsequiter, if I ever saw one. That's like trying to put a square peg into a round hole. They don't belong together in the same argument. That's illogical at best.

There is no 'there' there with the reply to my original post. There is no logical nexus to an imminent error in merely asking the question that was based in McCain's first cause false premise and his subsequent transfer/shift into Obama's effect of the first cause first premise, which was itself, 'change'.

A total nonsequiter and/or a misunderstanding of my original question.

Harshaw

Oh, come on.

The question had a premise, which was exactly as I described it. If it didn't, it was a meaningless question.

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