UtahBill

You returned? voluntarily?
I was born in camden, and my folks move to east texas before I turned 2. But we visited family there when I was about 10 or 11. That was enough for me. But to be fair, if we judge all of NJ based on Camden, we are making a mistake.

Likewise, if we judge candidates on what their preachers say, we are making a mistake.
From personal experience with several religions, they have become too competitive, and the goal of high membership is based on the money more than anything else.
Any church that spends a lot of time preaching against other religions is bogus, IMO....

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UtahBill

agree, but no president can do anything for or against that without congress first sending him a bill to sign into law, and congress won't have a lot of luck getting past the supreme court and the ACLU....

Presidents don't have near the power we the public think they have....

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John_Gault

Probably, in bigger cities with more diversified crowds I am sure churches have evolved more so than in secluded settings like my hometown and Wasilla... I doubt if those churches in NYC for instance would invite a Jews for Jesus spokesman to speak at their chuch, but that is just speculation...

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SouthernDemocrat

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und you implied it was only pentecostals, now you are changing it. and I do have to aske you for evidence as you have been known to post untruths as truths...

Thanks for calling me a liar. That sure is the sign of a good pastor, to slander those that don't agree with you as liars. I am sure that big congregations are just lining up to have such a nice guy as you as their senior pastor. Very Christian of you.

People tend to use the terms "Pentecostal" and "Charismatics" interchangeably. In fact, churches that go Charismatic many times will append "costal" when describing themselves as in "Presby-costal".

From the Church Website:

We believe in Jesus Christ as the Sovereign Giver of spiritual giftsto the church."

http://www.fullgospelbaptist.org/html/distinctives.html

Thats a charismatic church if I ever saw one.

For those that don't know the term "Spiritual Gifts", Spiritual Gifts include:

The Gift of Manifestation (this is the speaking in tongues, healing, flailing around one), The Gift of Ministry, and the Gift of Motivation.


Jehovah's Witnesses are more cult than anything else, and there are not too many Adventists around anymore. I would challenge you to find any major Christian Sect that revolves around End Times theology more than the Pentecostal Groups.

People do so all the time, see above.


Trinitarian.

Look, I was born and raised in Arkansas. Your trying to lecture me on Pentecostals would be like me trying to lecture someone from Massachusetts on Catholics.

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DarkWizard12

*sigh*.

Are alaskan pentecostals anything like Southern pentecostal churchs?

jallman

I love the stench of liberal desperation that has recently permeated this forum and the political scene. One little woman...one little "hockey mom" and every principle of tolerance and the oh so famed "intellectualism" of the left has melted down in a pool of desperately nasty attack. The woman goes to a Pentacostal Church. Isn't that her right as an American? To worship how she sees fit. There was nothing in that sermon that indicated that anyone was hating Jews or anything of the sort.

But how quick those desperate slugs of impotent rage and senseless incivility we call our friends on the left have a complete meltdown and throw insults like "anti-Semitism" around with alacrity and glee...anything, just anything they can get their hands on to make something stick before they actually have to face this woman in a debate about ISSUES (hey, remember those?).

I'm not worried about this election at all. Someone pointed out a few weeks back that Democrats have an uncanny talent for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. This time, all it took was a "hockey mom" from Alaska.

Don't ya just love American politics?

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jallman

Not at all. Alaskan's mainly pay lip service to religion. I have challenged these jokers to find me any legislation that Sarah Palin has supported, sponsored, called for, or spoken passionately about that would indicate she is unduly driven by her religious practice.

So far, crickets or excuses. Mainly excuses but that is the hallmark of the Democrats. Just look at their do-nothing congress, recently. Oh, yeah, they apologized for slavery again or something. Bravo. Bravo.

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UtahBill

Sarcasm alert.....
Yeah, don't be calling SD a liar. Misinformed and/or ignorant, maybe, but not a liar.
That would be giving him credit for some smarts!
sarcasm over....
actually, he is smart in most areas, but like the rest of us, he has some deficient areas of knowledge...

I could probably agree with the same terms used against many here on DP who think their religion is the only correct one.

Religions are divisive, and if I understand anything about the teachings of Christ, it is that he is going to exact severe punishment on those who preach divisive religion instead of christianity as HE taught it (not Paul and others).

In case I have not made myself clear here and in previous posts, I have very little use for preachers, pastors, priests, popes, etc. who spend their teaching time being against other religions instead of unifying as much as possible to do the work Christ commanded us to do....

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DarkWizard12

Its amazing really, the liberals are doing the exact thing they attacked the republicans for in the 'Wright' fiasco. Not only that, but they are failing at it as well. Hypocrisy anyone?

John_Gault

I kinda touched on this in another post, but, I think that it isn't a matter of geography it is more about demographics (Wasilla is about 8,000 people of which 85.46% White, 0.59% Black or African American, 5.25% Native American, 1.32% Asian, 0.13% Pacific Islander, 1.32% from other races, and 5.94% from two or more races. 3.68% of the population were Hispanic or Latino) and seclusion (even bigger cities in Alaska are secluded)...

I know I have met people from Northern California and they would make my family look like intellectual elitists... lol

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