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Old 09-02-08, 11:33 PM   #11
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Re: Republican party platform is passed

You know, i've been noticing ample parking and no baby cries from inner city trash dumpsters the last few years. Maybe this whole abortion thing is catching on.

In any case, I think since conservative politicians are so opposed to abortion, they should maybe reconsider the whole "gay marriage" stance. After all, gay couples lucky enough to get pregnant most likely are gonna carry their little pride-and-joy to term rather than sneak into a clinic behind mom and dad's back.
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You know, i've been noticing ample parking and no baby cries from inner city trash dumpsters the last few years. Maybe this whole abortion thing is catching on.

In any case, I think since conservative politicians are so opposed to abortion, they should maybe reconsider the whole "gay marriage" stance. After all, gay couples lucky enough to get pregnant most likely are gonna carry their little pride-and-joy to term rather than sneak into a clinic behind mom and dad's back.
Abortion and gay-marriage are related through moral relativism, and moral relativism is not an issue on this thread.
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Old 09-02-08, 11:46 PM   #13
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Abortion and gay-marriage are related through moral relativism, and moral relativism is not an issue on this thread.
Dang! Those imaginary babies that sacrificed their lives and conservative politicians who embraced gay marriage in my off-humor post are gonna be REALLY upset to find out that their relationship is morally relative, and therefore has no place in this thread despite the term 'abortion' being thrown around!
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Old 09-02-08, 11:57 PM   #14
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Dang! Those imaginary babies that sacrificed their lives and conservative politicians who embraced gay marriage in my off-humor post are gonna be REALLY upset to find out that their relationship is morally relative, and therefore has no place in this thread despite the term 'abortion' being thrown around!
Well, "conservative" is a politicly relative term, after all.
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I read it just fine the first time and your fear that Mc.Cain would somehow ban all abortion was and is crystal clear.

..and if it's the rapist's fetus, doesn't he get the say on rather it's aborted or not, and not the mother?
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Still don't understand? Here. Try my reading glasses.

That better? No? Then all I can say is "Reading is Fundamental".
Put your rose colored glasses down, you obviously need bifocals because you only quoted half the sentence. Here, try my perfect 20-20 vision:

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I will be the first to tell you that this is not McCain's position, but McCain IS running on the Republican platform.
..to which you later attribute the action:
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It is not a bad thing that Roe v. Wade gets overturned, but those that follow the GOP platform will want the Federal government to take the decision out of the hands of the states, and to make ALL abortion a crime.
You're saying that Mc.Cain will seek to make all abortion illegal because although it may not be his personal opinion, it is his party's position.

So again I ask, can you provide any evidence that Mc.Cain would seek to ban all abortion?
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..to which you later attribute the action:


You're saying that Mc.Cain will seek to make all abortion illegal because although it may not be his personal opinion, it is his party's position.

So again I ask, can you provide any evidence that Mc.Cain would seek to ban all abortion?
Quit being so obtuse. I said twice in my original post that McCain did not support this position, but people do not only vote for a candidate when they go into the booth. They also vote for the platform, unless they are stupid enough to see this only as a popularity contest. Most people aren't that stupid. This year, the Republican platform is what it is, McCain or no McCain, and the platform seeks to ban all abortion.

So the question you are asking me has absolutely no relevance at all.
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Quit being so obtuse.
You misspelled "logical".

You once again made the case that a vote for Mc.Cain is a vote to ban all abortion.

Abortion is not ever going to be banned completely. Yes, there are a minority of folks in the world who want it banned completely. Get over it. They won't ever succeed because that is not the direction this nation is going.

You can crawl out from under your bed now...its okay, Jerry's here to make sure the buggy-man is gone. (that, Hatuey, is trolling. Stating a political opinion is not. Just thought I’d clear that up for ya.)
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Quit being so obtuse. I said twice in my original post that McCain did not support this position, but people do not only vote for a candidate when they go into the booth. They also vote for the platform, unless they are stupid enough to see this only as a popularity contest. Most people aren't that stupid. This year, the Republican platform is what it is, McCain or no McCain, and the platform seeks to ban all abortion.

So the question you are asking me has absolutely no relevance at all.
I was personally under the impression that we elected a "person" to be President, not a "party". If we're electing a "party" as President why do we even need party primaries. Just pick a person who is really popular and completely willing to do exactly what the "party" tells them to do while in office. I would say that most people nowdays do not vote for a party but rather for a person. I know I would have had a harder time deciding between Hillary and McCain than I am with Obama and McCain.

The "party platform" of the President is not what signs or vetoes bills, the President is. The President is not obligated in any way to abide by the "party platform". He may be risking some votes for the next election if he doesn't follow the "party platform", but it probably won't be that much in the long run and it would depend on what part(s) of the platform he decided to ignore and decide for himself on. Not everyone agrees with the platform of the party that they most identify with. I would love to see gay marriage legalized eventhough I am generally Republican in my views.
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I was personally under the impression that we elected a "person" to be President, not a "party". If we're electing a "party" as President why do we even need party primaries. Just pick a person who is really popular and completely willing to do exactly what the "party" tells them to do while in office.
I know it sucks, but that is what matters--the party.
 
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