Sarah Palin supported Ketchikan ‘bridge to nowhere’ during 2006 race for Alaska Gov.

Jerry · 09-02-08, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Binary_Digit

And McCain supports suspending habeus corpus for American citizens.

That's an evil, but that's a lesser evil then killing born infants.

Ether one of those issues, however, make the bridge-to-nowhere a non issue.

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

Sarah Palin supported Ketchikan bridge to nowhere

Is this an issue?

When compared to other issues such as suspending habeus corpus for American citizens or murdering born infants, no, this is not an issue.

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Originally Posted by Binary_Digit

Hijack much?

Not even once.

Binary_Digit · 09-02-08, 09:35 PM

Alaska has its own congress that is separate from the US Congress, right? I think most states do, but I'm assuming that. So when she said, "our congressional delegation", I'm wondering if she meant the US Congress or the Alaskan congress. That would say whether or not she flip-flopped.

Jerry · 09-02-08, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Binary_Digit

Sorry, but jumping into a thread and arbitrarily claiming "abortion is worse!!1!1" is not voicing an opinion. It's trolling.

My opinion was not "abortion is worse".

My opinion regarded *born* infants.

Jerry · 09-02-08, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

Bull****. What does Obama have to do Sarah Palin's support for the bridge to nowhere? Nothing. Thanks for playing.

Trolling/Derailing falls under that.

But that's not what you did. You tried to derail the thread.

Trolling and derailing fall under that.

Can you explain what Obama has to do with the bridge to nowhere?

All I did was answer your OP's question:

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

newsminer.com • Sarah Palin supported Ketchikan â€˜bridge to nowhereâ€™ during 2006 race for Alaska governor

Is this an issue?

..with an answer more articulate then simply "this is not an issue", or "no".
If you wish to debate it even though I don’t think it’s an issue, there’s nothing wrong with that; but accusing me of trolling and being a jerk is quite out of line.

SouthernDemocrat · 09-03-08, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry

My opinion was not "abortion is worse".

My opinion regarded *born* infants.

Great, start all the threads you want on those two opinions, but don't just throw them out when you have nothing to contribute to a thread that has nothing to do with abortion. That is by definition trolling.

jallman · 09-03-08, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat

If you are such a one issue voter, and that one issue obviously outweighs any other, then what is the point of debating anything?

If you think that Obama supports murdering infants, which is unbelievably offensive to any parent that disagrees with you, then obviously you are not going to vote for him no matter what, nor vote against McCain / Palin no matter what. So why offer anything up in this threads?

I love hyper-partisan rants like these. They just show the theme of Obama's campaign so well: Let me bash the McCain ticket in peace but don't you dare question Obamessiah, hata'!!!!

Play on, playa'. Play on.

shuamort · 09-03-08, 10:35 AM

Back on the topic side of things:

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Originally Posted by Binary_Digit

Maybe I'm off the mark here, but isn't "state funding" like when the state funds the project, instead of the fed, which is exactly in line with her original statement: "If our state wanted a bridge, I said we’d build it ourselves."? And isn't she talking about the Alaskan congressional delegation?

Binary Digit nailed it. I think. It seems different news sources are having disagreements on what she was asking for. Can we find some accuracy if she was wanting it to be solely state funded or federally funded?

BUT

Just this year, she sent to Sen. Ted. Stevens, R-Alaska, a proposal for 31 earmarks totaling $197 million — more, per person, than any other state.

Some of Palin's requests were for science research, such as $499,900 to assess halibut harvesting; others for lighting village airports in the Alaskan bush, where small planes and gravel runways may be the primary link to the outside world.

Palin's requests to Congress came at a time of huge federal deficits, while Alaska state revenue was soaring due to rising oil prices and a major tax increase on oil production that Palin signed into law in late 2007.

As a result, Alaska this year was in such a money-flushed condition — with no state income tax or sales tax and total state revenues of $10 billion, double the previous year's — that Palin gained legislative approval for $1,200 cash payments to every Alaskan.

No state income tax or sales tax and Alaska is demanding federal funds for pet projects? I don't like that.

Truth Detector · 09-03-08, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Binary_Digit

And McCain supports suspending habeus corpus for American citizens.

He does? Do you have any credible evidence to support this assertion; or is this another one of those; because you say so?

Truth Detector · 09-03-08, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat

Yes, but you left out the part where she finishes the statement with "while our congressional delegation is in a strong position to exist". That is the part where she is looking for their federal delegation to send in the pork. Which of course is typical of the welfare queen "individualist" Alaskans. They probably would not even have flush toilets up there if it were not for wealthy blue staters paying taxes just so the Alaskan congressional delegation could funnel it up to a state with just 700,000 people in it.

Shall we start a thread about pork barrel politics and which party is the biggest pig at the public trough?

The fascinating thing about this debate is that Sarah Palin was not in Congress and could not VOTE for this legislation, she could just stick her hand out like so many Democrats and other politicians who feed at the public trough.

shuamort · 09-03-08, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Truth Detector

Shall we start a thread about pork barrel politics and which party is the biggest pig at the public trough?

The fascinating thing about this debate is that Sarah Palin was not in Congress and could not VOTE for this legislation, she could just stick her hand out like so many Democrats and other politicians who feed at the public trough.

I'd say both parties are equally guilty of it.

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CCAGW also broke down ratings based on party affiliation and membership in the two fiscally conservative groups, the Republican Study Committee and the Blue Dog Democrats. The average scores were: House Republicans 60 percent, up 14 percentage points from their grade of 46 percent in 2006; House Democrats 5 percent, down 4 percentage points from their 9 percent score in 2006; House Republican Study Committee 73 percent, up 17 percentage points from their 56 percent score in 2006; and House Blue Dog Democrats 11 percent, down 9 percentage points from their 20 percent score in 2006.

CCAGW also broke down ratings based on party affiliation and membership in the two fiscally conservative groups, the Republican Study Committee and the Blue Dog Democrats. The average scores were: House Republicans 60 percent, up 14 percentage points from their grade of 46 percent in 2006; House Democrats 5 percent, down 4 percentage points from their 9 percent score in 2006; House Republican Study Committee 73 percent, up 17 percentage points from their 56 percent score in 2006; and House Blue Dog Democrats 11 percent, down 9 percentage points from their 20 percent score in 2006.

The democrats won top billing last year thanks to John Murtha.

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Citizens Against Government Waste (CAGW) today announced the final results of its online poll for the 2007 Porker of the Year. Rep. John “Jack” Murtha (D-Pa.) won in a landslide victory, receiving 63.4 percent of the vote. A distant second, Rep. Don Young (R-Alaska) received 10.6 percent, while Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) came in with 9.9 percent, Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) had 6.7 percent, and Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) and Rep. James Oberstar (D-Minn.) both finished up with 4.1 percent. The finalists were chosen by CAGW staff from among the 12 Porker of the Month winners for 2007.

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