Summerwind

You've made it more than a little clear that you have no ability or knowledge by which to buy this, so you remaining ignorant about the reality of childbirth is expected. Has been through the entire discussion.

aps

I didn't mean to compare a single joke to a supposed "entire effort to destroy a young womans life."

To call this an "entire effort to destroy a young woman's life" is ridiculous. Without knowing any of these alleged facts, when I first heard the story that she traveled after her water broke, I actually rewound my TIVO to listen to it again, because I was . When my water broke, I was told I had to get to the hospital in one hour. ONE HOUR. So this completely took me by surprise.

I can't imagine that I am just so unique that I wondered how this could be true. So people have delved into what happened and there appeared (or appears) to be facts that could substantiate the allegation that Sarah Palin did not have this child. YES, older women are more likely to have a Down Syndrome baby, but there are instances where a younger woman can have one. It's not implausible.

Zyphlin

I think it has nothing to do with the abhorrent, disgusting, baseless allegations made in this thread.

I think its unfortunate for the girl to have to be going through this, but it seems she has a good family structure to help. As far as the underage marriage I have no where near the whole information on that and that will be on the family to decide. I think its a tough situation where either course of action, marriage or no marriage, could be incredibly unwise or has the potential for issues. I think those that have all the facts and are close to the situation are the only ones that can really make the call on which way to go with it. I think the fact there are some that are so rabidly partisan and already despise this woman so much that they wish to destroy her in any way possible are salivating this and immedietely grabbing it to turn it into a political matter to try and string her up is distasteful but is not surprising from some of the people its coming out of.

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1069

This is the reaction I've heard from every mother I've discussed the situation with.
I've had to repeat Goddess knows how many times in the past 24 hours, "Don't forget that we're prochoice; we support women's right to do whatever they choose with their bodies, even if we find it stupidly irresponsible."

Which is true; I support Palin's decision to get on that plane and fly home if she felt like it, god damn the risks.

But just because I support her (and every woman's) right to make such a choice does not mean I agree with it or feel that it was wise or prudent.
To me, it says something about her decision-making abilities and impulsivity level.

Gladiator

Why did the State of Alaska remove picrtures previously on the State website, showing Sarah Heath Palin's daughter, Bristol, appearing to be pregnant?

I have not heard any statement from anyone who has gone to the Courthouse and examined the birth certificate for Trig Paxson Van Palin, born April 18, 2008.


What are your explanations? Why are you attacking people who are raising logical questions? Partisanship?


McCain doe not seem to have a clue why Bristol missed months of school in the spring of 08.


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Zyphlin

What's the explanation? Who knows. My guess? These salactious rumors have begun and rather than continue to have a young woman being harassed and scrutinized by the public on the website they took it down. Another guess, with this making internet waves the amount of traffic the site was getting was more than they felt was worth.

Either way, again, all you've got is mild conjecture with no true proof. You've got nothing more definitive then the guy who passed a lie detector test that he had gay sex and smoked crack with Obama. So how about this Gladiator, as soon as you show me this isn't just some hacky, horrible, disgusting, low hyper partisan hackery and go dig up one of those old threads, do some reaserch, and attack Obama about some ludicrous claims as well...I'll answer your pointless, anecdotal, conjecture.

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Summerwind

And all we're asking for is verifiable proof one way or the other. Since she seems to be hiding something, we are using a shaming technique to get that information, a tactic I learned while a republican.

independent_thinker2002

I thought that guy failed the lie detector test.

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Zyphlin

Right. SO my statement that some on the left are as low, disgusting, and horrible in terms of political morality as some on the right is true. Thanks, you're absolutely right.

And guess what

A ****ty, horrible, disgusting tactic used by one side is still a ****ty, horrible, disgusting tactic when used by the other.

Glad to see you think so highly of honest true debating. I'm sure next some amazingly stupid, horribly partisan, over the top crap is said about Obama that you won't be there condemning republicans or saying its crazy since you seem to approve and relish in such low brow politics.

I'll have to relook, I was under the impression he passed it to my knowledge.

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Gladiator

I am againat McCain becuase McCain is anti-choice.

I choose to raise questions about anti-choice candidates. I work for anti-choice candates to lose.

I am not making accusations. I am raising questions that have not been satisfactorily answered.

It is the job of candidates to answer questions, particularly about public documents. Is the Birth Certificate for Trig Paxson Van Palin accurate? Did someone supply false information? Is there an applicable exception under Alaska law allowing inacurate info to be put on an adopted child's birth certificate?



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