Originally Posted by P/N

If gay marriage was legal before this, then you'd have a point.

Just so you all know, I have no problem with gay marriage. I'm not a supporter of it, but you won't see me lining up to vote against it either. I do believe it is a state issue and not a federal issue. If Californian's want to legalize gay marriage, I'm OK with that. But the fact remains that they did vote on it and the judicial system has taken the will of the voters and trampled on it. No one's rights are being taken away if gays can't marry. There is no right to marriage granted in the Constitution period.

I believe too much is being made of this issue for there are several issues far more important in the grand scheme, but I can see why gays hold this issue near and dear to their heart, just as I hold protecting our children from predators, rapists and pedophiles near and dear to mine. If the law needs to be changed, then change it. Abusing the court system and it's intent for something like this would make our founding fathers cringe, especially since it overrides the will of the people in the state.

Originally Posted by aps

I am interested to see what happens with this election issue.

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Wow, I can't believe the majority of voters weren't swayed by the argument "Gays already have the right marry, they can marry members of the opposite sex." That was, like, such a clincher.

Originally Posted by American

Does anyone else feel that California should be split off into the ocean, and allowed to float away?

Originally Posted by Jerry

As a straight man I wasn't swayed with "You should have the right to marry a another man" either.

Originally Posted by Cardinal

Yeah, but California is just one more state that doesn't care.

Good luck in the next round.

Originally Posted by Jerry

I'm one of those who don't care.

Originally Posted by P/N

And yet this happens every single day in Congress - both at the state level and at the federal level. Your theory is shot full of holes again.

And BTW, a majority of Californians already supported and voted last year. Of course an activist judge put a stop to that because we can't have the will of the people ruling the land, that would be undemocratic.

Originally Posted by P/N

I apologize, it was in 2000. But my point remains valid, a majority of Californians oppose gay marriage. It has taken the liberal judges in California to undo the will of the people. Another defeat for democracy, congratulations California!!!

Originally Posted by Gibberish

Seeing California has the 7th highest GDP in the world we would be able to hold or own if we did "split off in the ocean".