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Old 08-27-08, 02:01 PM   #71
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

Great job building that strawman then taking it down. good show.
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

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So this guy throws a fund raiser for Obama. *yawn*

Perhaps the whole city of chicago should feel recalcitrant for accepting this guy who sounds more like an ass than a real radical (I'm talking about philosophy here, not actions).
Rejecting Obama's Radical Friends - TIME

How about McCain and Liddy?
With friends like these ... -- chicagotribune.com

"Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain sounded like one. "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family," he gushed. "It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."


Which principles would those be? The ones that told Liddy it was fine to break into the office of the Democratic National Committee to plant bugs and photograph documents? The ones that made him propose to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn't disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention? The ones that inspired him to plan the murder (never carried out) of an unfriendly newspaper columnist?"
Great... start a thread on Liddy and we can discuss him there.
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

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Yes it is.

Could you provide a cite to the statement by Obama which supports the FACT that he said Ayers was "respectable" and "mainstream"?
The statements were in quotes so I presume they were part of a larger context. Can you provide any proof these words were NOT Obama's?

Why do OTHERS always have to make your arguments? Do some work for yourself and PROVE the statements were false.

Good lord, Liberals can be so damned intellectually lazy; they always expect OTHERS to do their work for them.
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

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He quotes others as saying Ayers is 'mainstream' on his own web site.
"... Obama is friends with Ayers defending him as quote respectable and mainstream."

You think the suggestion that these were Obama's quotes was accidental, simply poor use of words?

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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

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The statements were in quotes so I presume they were part of a larger context. Can you provide any proof these words were NOT Obama's?

Why do OTHERS always have to make your arguments? Do some work for yourself and PROVE the statements were false.

Good lord, Liberals can be so damned intellectually lazy; they always expect OTHERS to do their work for them.
You claimed these were FACTS, "Truth Detector". "Hard to argue with FACTS" -- remember writing that?

So much for your FACTS.

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Old 08-27-08, 02:23 PM   #76
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You claimed these were FACTS, "Truth Detector". "Hard to argue with FACTS" -- remember writing that?

So much for your FACTS.
I guess you glossed over this post then:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057707498-post64.html (Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical)
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"... Obama is friends with Ayers defending him as quote respectable and mainstream."

You think the suggestion that these were Obama's quotes was accidental, simply poor use of words?
Neither.

The relationship between Obama and Ayers was originally brought up by Hillary Clinton during a debate last April. Soon after, Obama put on his website an "explanation" and this is where the original quote came from. It has since been removed by Obama. Here's what it said:

"Ayers and Dohrn Became Respectable Fixtures of the Mainstream in Chicago"

Pretty neat trick. Say something, then when it's quoted by an opponent, threaten them with slander for saying it. The Obama camp seems to forget that once a web page is placed on the internet, it is there forever if someone is willing to look hard enough for it.

The American Issues Project has documented every single sentence in their ad. They knew Obama would challenge them on it. The documentation can be found at:

http://www.americanissuesproject.org...h_Research.pdf
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Neither.

The relationship between Obama and Ayers was originally brought up by Hillary Clinton during a debate last April. Soon after, Obama put on his website an "explanation" and this is where the original quote came from. It has since been removed by Obama. Here's what it said:

"Ayers and Dohrn Became Respectable Fixtures of the Mainstream in Chicago"

Pretty neat trick. Say something, then when it's quoted by an opponent, threaten them with slander for saying it. The Obama camp seems to forget that once a web page is placed on the internet, it is there forever if someone is willing to look hard enough for it.

The American Issues Project has documented every single sentence in their ad. They knew Obama would challenge them on it. The documentation can be found at:

http://www.americanissuesproject.org...h_Research.pdf
That was not a quote or statemnt by Obama, as the ad intentionally misimplies, but a quote of soemthing written by someone else.

Here's the pulled paragraph, based on a citation from Americanissuesproject:

Hot Air Blog Archive A little housecleaning at Obama’s Fact Check site?

Which is accurate, based on Ayers resume post weatherman.

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I keep hearing this, other than sitting on the same board one time how are they "good" friends? Did Ayers come over to dinner each week? Did they golfing each weekend? That is what good friends do.

More lies from the right as usual.
Do you have your friends over for dinner each week? Are you for real?
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

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So why is obama trying to stamp out this ad? was it untrue? did obama not launch his political career from the living room of this terrorist?


What say you?
This great!!!!!!!!!! He is not going to sit back and while the GOP trying to spin crap.
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