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Old 08-27-08, 12:08 PM   #51
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

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He's threatening tv and radio stations that might air the ad.

He's demanding that the 504c organization immediately cease airing the ad.

He's asking the justice department to criminally charge the man that donated money for the ads.

He spent money to produce and air rebuttals. The rebuttal was aired within hours.

If it's untrue, why go to such extremes, simply put out a story saying it's untrue with an explanation of why.
Because, if untrue, it's slander. Obama is in the running to be the President of the United States in a very tight race. He cannot allow for slanderous ads to be displayed to an ignorant populace.
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If it's untrue, why go to such extremes, simply put out a story saying it's untrue with an explanation of why.
Because much like the CONServatives tried to do with the "Obama is a Muslim" rhetoric, the more you repeat a lie the more people will believe it even if it isn't true.
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Old 08-27-08, 12:39 PM   #53
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

Reverend...what murder did Ayers commit?
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Old 08-27-08, 12:39 PM   #54
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

UIC to release Obama-Ayers records :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Barack Obama


UIC to release Obama-Ayers records

August 23, 2008Recommend (16)

The University of Illinois at Chicago did an about-face Friday, agreeing to release records on Barack Obama's service to a nonprofit education reform group linked to 1960s radical William Ayers.

Although the records of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge had been at the UIC library since 2002, the school denied requests to review them, saying the donor had not given ownership rights to UIC.

Friday, UIC said it had fulfilled the terms of the gift and plans to make the records available Tuesday
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Reverend...what murder did Ayers commit?




He was negilent and in conspiracy when his girlfriend was killed making a "nail bomb"......


He can be charged in her death.


What was he charged with btw...


And if thier targets were not people WTF was his bitch doing building a nail bomb?



I await your next post defending a terrorist.
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Old 08-27-08, 12:45 PM   #56
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

Why haven't Ayers been prosecuted if he admitted his radical group set bomb in Pentagon and U.S Capitol? ?
This is very CONFUSING....please help me understand since we are spending billions of dollars chasing Osama and fighting against terrorist in Iraq but will not prosecute someone who has openly admitted such an atrocious crime. And if the Justice System leaves him free then why should we blame Obama for ever meeting him if Ayers is still part of the movers and shakers of Chicago and a professor at University of Illinois.




"I don't regret setting bombs," Ayers is quoted as saying. "I feel we didn't do enough."

Ayers was a terrorist in the late 1960s and 1970s whose radical group set bombs at the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol.


"Bill Ayers, I've said this, his father was a great friend of my father. I'll be very frank. Vietnam divided families, divided people. It was a terrible time of our country. It really separated people. People didn't know one another. Since then, I'll be very frank, (Ayers) has been in the forefront on a lot of education issues and helping us in public schools and things like that.

"People keep trying to align himself with Barack Obama. It's really unfortunate. They're friends. So what? People do make mistakes in the past. You move on. This is a new century, a new time. He reflects back and he's been making a strong contribution to our community."

his father, Thomas Ayers, was chairman of Commonwealth Edison (now Exelon) and a charter member of the Chicago establishment. As Mayor Richard M. Daley said recently, in arguing that the Ayers association should not be held against Obama, "His father was a great friend of my father."

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Old 08-27-08, 01:03 PM   #57
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

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Because, if untrue, it's slander. Obama is in the running to be the President of the United States in a very tight race. He cannot allow for slanderous ads to be displayed to an ignorant populace.
If it's slander, he should have no trouble proving it and getting a court injunction prohibiting the airing of the commercial.

He's not doing that is he??

Could it be that is true and thus not slander??

Or maybe, he's counting on an "ignorant populace" dismissing the facts and accepting his slander of this organization that made the commercial.
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Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

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He was negilent and in conspiracy when his girlfriend was killed making a "nail bomb"......
So his gf built a bomb and killed herself?

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He can be charged in her death.
Really? How? She was building a bomb.

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What was he charged with btw...
But never convicted?

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And if thier targets were not people WTF was his bitch doing building a nail bomb?
But Ayers himself never killed anybody and was never found guilty of killing anybody on purpose or in a negligent manner?

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I haven't defended anybody. I asked you for proof that he killed somebody. Keep crying.
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Republicans playing the "fear card" as usual.....nothing more....nothing less.
Yes, I often find that when Republicans start speaking the truth, democrats become very afraid.

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This is exactly the point that Michele Obama was making in her speech.
This generation will be the generation that finally said, we're done listening to the politics playing fear and ready to accept a new generation of hope and change.
Ohhh...now that's a powerful argument. "Vote for us or be afraid that they'll try to make you afraid."

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Do you want to continue on the same old road of failure and the politics of the past?
And what failures would those be? You keep tossing out this empty rhetoric, but you don't give any substance to your assertions. Please, enlighten us finally. What is the message behind your talking points?

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If you believe that America can do better. Obama is the clear and obvious choice.
Why? What is Obama bringing to the table that makes you say this? Because from where I'm sitting, Obama is bringing nothing but very shady ties to very radical people, some experience holding bake sales in the inner city, and some purty talk as long as he's in front of a teleprompter.
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