Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

bhkad · 08-29-08, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by The silenced majority

Ah yes, Bill Ayers is now respectable because he's a college professor.

"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and parts. Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents." ~ Bill Ayers

Did I mention he's a tenured professor at the University of Chicago in Early Childhood Education!!!

Of course we know now that he's a mainstream guy.

"There's something about a good bomb. Night after night, day after day, each majestic scene I witnessed was so terrible and so unexpected that no city would ever soon stand innocently fixed in my mind. Big buildings and wide streets, cement and steel were no longer permanent. They, too, were fragile and destructible. A torch, a bomb, a strong enough wind. And they, too, would come undone or get knocked down." ~ Bill Ayers: Fugitive Days (2004)

...and

When asked if he would rule out returning to his former profession of bomb making and anarchy, Ayers replied:

"I can't imagine entirely dismissing the possibility."

But let's instead focus on his work as a tenured professor.

Teaching Towards Freedom: Moral Commitment and Ethical Action in the Classroom 2004

"evocative lessons about education and humanity must be taught from Pablo Neruda [communist bureaucrat], and Malcolm X.

In his 1998 book: A Kind and Just Parent, Ayers argues that prejudices against violent juvenile offenders is the root of the problem, not the crimes themselves.

In Zero Tolerance: Resisting the Drive for Punishment in our Schools 2004, Ayers claims that expulsion from school for violent students should be eliminated, especially if the kid is black or Hispanic.

Sorry, don't expect this cold warrior to to genuflect at Mr. Ayers ability to escape his former life and find solace in the swamp of academia where the like-minded lurk.

Iriemon · 08-29-08, 07:52 AM

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I've still seen no indication of Ayers making the statements of non-regret before 2001 or indication that Obama voluntarily associated with Ayers after they were made.

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Originally Posted by bhkad

That's probably because your argument is specious.

More likely because there are no facts there.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 08-29-08, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

"Good chum"?

Dishonest.

Hater.

Even remote associate=hanging out with poo you start to smell....

How is it dishonest? Please tell me and prove this.

Did his campaign not say they were "friendly"?

Thanks for playing.

Goobieman · 08-29-08, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Even remote associate=hanging out with poo you start to smell....
How is it dishonest? Please tell me and prove this.
Did his campaign not say they were "friendly"?
Thanks for playing.

How much hay did the liberals make of the casual relationship between the Bush family and the bin Ladens?

Oh, wait... that's different. Never mind.

Reverend_Hellh0und · 08-29-08, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Goobieman

How much hay did the liberals make of the casual relationship between the Bush family and the bin Ladens?

Oh, wait... that's different. Never mind.

Holy crap..... That was like bringing the DDT!

Iriemon · 08-29-08, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Holy crap..... That was like bringing the DDT!

Naw, it was more like diverting to off topic. Or shall I start cut-n- pasting articles about some of McCain's "friends" in this thread now?

bhkad · 08-29-08, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

I would like everyone to take note of the haters in this thread. They don't support anyone with their posts. They are political hitmen bent on scaring people. They aren't for anything necessarily.

Are we going to let people use fear and hate to force our country into another mistake?

We are FOR America. Wouldn't you say that you'd have liked the Bush administration being less secretive?

Well, if Obama is already deceptive and misleading and secretive, what do you expect he will be like when he no longer needs our vote?

Some of us are asking Obama to answer questions. Some of us have concluded Obama is sympathetic to Ayers, an admitted "small "c" communist "fellow traveler". Others may have already jumped to the conclusion that Obama must be up to no good if he won't answer questions beyond admitting, improbably, 'we are just neighbors.'

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In some political contexts the term fellow traveler refers to a person who sympathizes with the beliefs of a particular organization, but does not belong to that organization. The phrase must be understood as referring to people who "walk part of the way" with an organization, without committing themselves to it. Since the Russian Revolution and rise of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, the term has most often been used for a sympathizer of Communism or particular Communist states, but who is nonetheless not a "card-carrying member" of a Communist party.

Fellow traveler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

bhkad · 08-29-08, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Naw, it was more like diverting to off topic. Or shall I start cut-n- pasting articles about some of McCain's "friends" in this thread now?

I'd welcome the chance to see all of McCain's questionable associations, decisions and political judgments. Why don't you start a thread for that subject?

independent_thinker2002 · 08-29-08, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Even remote associate=hanging out with poo you start to smell....

How is it dishonest? Please tell me and prove this.

Did his campaign not say they were "friendly"?

Thanks for playing.

I'm "friendly" with my neighbors. That doesn't make us "good chums".

You can have the last word as you are obviously playing games.

bhkad · 08-29-08, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Yes, troubling indications that Obama spent his time in organizations adn individuals that help the poor and disadvantaged.

We can't have that!

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The danger of Obama’s charismatic healer-redeemer fable lies in the hubris it encourages, the belief that gifted politicians can engender a selfless communitarian solidarity. Such a renovation of our national life would require not only a change in constitutional structure—the current system having been geared to conflict by the Founders, who believed that the clash of private interests helps preserve liberty—but also a change in human nature. Obama’s conviction that it is possible to create a beautiful politics, one in which Americans will selflessly pursue a shared vision of the common good, recalls the belief that Dostoyevsky attributed to the nineteenth-century Russian revolutionists: that, come the revolution, “all men will become righteous in one instant.” The perfection would begin.

Obama, Shaman by Michael Knox Beran, City Journal Summer 2008

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