Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical

Iriemon · 08-29-08, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Because neither one is close to gaining access to the presidency and if there were as many troubling indications and unanswered questions about them they would be getting this same kind and amount of attention.

Yes, troubling indications that Obama spent his time in organizations adn individuals that help the poor and disadvantaged.

We can't have that!

Iriemon · 08-29-08, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

So...

Is it your contention that Bill Ayers was a radical terrorist in the 1960's and 1970's, and Bill Ayers has espoused radical views since 2001, but Bill Ayers changed his radical views for a short period of time in the 1990's because of Obama, who was a young attorney seeking to get into politics?

Hey, maybe Obama worked his 'magic' on Ayers and he became enchanted.

No. Wrong.

independent_thinker2002 · 08-29-08, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Yeah uh, we are not the ones making excuses for Barry's good chum terrorist Ayers, whos group he was a leader of bombed, killed, etc and to which he says he did not do enough and has no regrets....

I'd rather be scathing than an apologist.

"Good chum"?

Dishonest.

Hater.

Iriemon · 08-29-08, 07:23 AM

[QUOTE=bhkad;1057709598]It is more than that. In fact, the way the Obama machine is rolling and rolling out over America, looks pretty ominous.

Absotlutely terrifying!

Iriemon · 08-29-08, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

It is more than that. In fact, the way the Obama machine is rolling and rolling out over America, looks pretty ominous.

Absotlutely terrifying! No doubt he'll complete the terrorist muslim takeover of the world!

Iriemon · 08-29-08, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gill

There's nothing misleading about it. Obama's website "said" that which is the same as if Obama had "said" that.

False. The website quoted it.

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Have you even bothered to read the original quote from Obama's website, or are you going by what is on it now? You do know that Obama sanitized the site after the Ayers problem was raised by Hillary don't you. What is on the website now is NOT what was there last April.

Obama's website unequivocally said what was quoted.

Yes I read the quote. It was not Obama's statement, as the smear ad intentionally implied.

Iriemon · 08-29-08, 07:30 AM

I've still seen no indication of Ayers making the statements of non-regret before 2001 or indication that Obama voluntarily associated with Ayers after they were made.

bhkad · 08-29-08, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by donc

Your right, I was wrong, no one on this thread has tried to link Obama to any of Ayers alleged wrongdoings; they just settle on smearing him because he happened to work with Ayers, and attended a few board meetings of the Annenberg Challenge, which incidentally Ayers played a major part in establishing.

Here’s a little insight on the Ayers that Obama met.

Lets see..1995-2008=13 years, yep, sure is an idiot for associating with Ayers, really should have denounced him right on the spot, especially if he had any plans of running for president in 13 years, damn idiot, don’t know why anyone would even think of voting for such a damn fool. Absolutely no long range planning at all. Anyone have a few McCain for Prez signs they can spare?

After reading this far I was struck by the realization that you really do not recognize that Obama is a leftist/Socialist, do you?

How can you support the man's candidacy without knowing even that much about him?

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Originally Posted by donc

The point is that the Republicans are trying to tie him with someone that did idiotic things in his past, that was never convicted, nor served any time for said idiotic things.

Obama,s only tie to Ayers was they were on the same anti-poverty group called “Woods Fund of Chicago’. Of course if you use winger logic, that is called guilt by association; compounded by the fact that he had the audacity to donate $200 hundred dollars to Obama,s Re-election fund for his run for the Illinois State Senate in 2001.Another thing that caught the wingers attention was “gasp” they lived in the same Hyde Park section of Chicago, more guilt by association.

Obama does not subscribe to a mainstream ideology. What he has done is to use various methods of personal charm, persuasion, the law, Alinsky techniques and the power of his race and his innate intelligence, to hide his TRUE colors.

IF (and you should note I capitalized the word, "if") Obama was a Stalinist Communist and intended to fool us into voting for him so he could lead this country toward a Soviet style Communism, there would be NOTHING he'd have to do differently than what he's already done. He could get away with it. You and others like you are the proof. Obama has shown us that half the country wouldn't make him answer any questions about his past associations.

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Originally Posted by donc

Lets take a little closer look at what Ayers brings to the table that warrants so much winger scorn. In 1997 it seems he wrote a book exposing the Cook County (Chicago’s predominately Democratic) Juvenile system, called,” A Kind and Just Parent”, also in 1997 he received Chicago’s Citizen of the year award as well as securing the city a $49.2 million Annenberg Award for school reform.

And he still is an unrepentant radical, small "c" communist by his own admission.

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Bill Ayers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
^ Chepesiuk, Ron, "Sixties Radicals, Then and Now: Candid Conversations With Those Who Shaped the Era", McFarland & Company, Inc., Publishers: Jefferson, North Carolina, 1995, "Chapter 5: Bill Ayers: Radical Educator", p. 102

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Originally Posted by donc

Don’t see many bomb throwers get the key to a city; especially from Chicago’s Mayer Daily after the book he wrote panning the cities juvenile system. Knowing Chicago politics a bit, anything’s possible there though.

Here’s what Mayer Daly had to say about Ayers < I also know Bill Ayers. He worked with me in shaping our now nationally renowned school reform program. He is a nationally recognized distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois/Chicago and a valued member of the Chicago community. > I don’t think a Mayer of a US city, that has about 3 Million population, would be saying that about a bomb thrower would they?

Mayors give keys to the city and recognize prominent individuals without necessarily giving them a blanket seal of approval.

And Mayors are not always the shining beacons of integrity you'd like us all to believe.

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bhkad · 08-29-08, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

I've still seen no indication of Ayers making the statements of non-regret before 2001 or indication that Obama voluntarily associated with Ayers after they were made.

That's probably because your argument is specious.

donc · 08-29-08, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

A Well Meant Tip:

Here's a poorly done tutorial, I created some time ago, on how to use text blocks to format posts.

Thanks for the lesson Professor, might use instead of my quote marks if they confuse you.

08-29-08, 07:23 AM	#194
Iriemon Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Last Seen: 12-21-09 09:18 AM Location: Miami Posts: 19,405 Thanks: 1,415 Thanked 2,223 Times in 1,524 Posts	Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical [QUOTE=bhkad;1057709598]It is more than that. In fact, the way the Obama machine is rolling and rolling out over America, looks pretty ominous. Absotlutely terrifying!

08-29-08, 07:30 AM	#197
Iriemon Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Last Seen: 12-21-09 09:18 AM Location: Miami Posts: 19,405 Thanks: 1,415 Thanked 2,223 Times in 1,524 Posts	Re: Obama seeks to silence ad tying him to 60s radical I've still seen no indication of Ayers making the statements of non-regret before 2001 or indication that Obama voluntarily associated with Ayers after they were made.

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