Lerxst

I don't give a **** whether they won the medal of honor or were POW's, when they lie through their teeth to trash a man they are also ****ing LIARS. **** the Swiftboat Vets for Dishonesty and anyone who thinks they are decent men.

Anytime you wanna compare DD214's pops, just let me know. I'd put my service record up against yours.

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Speaking of which, this never fails to crack me up.


They should do something similar for Mccain.

Lerxst

You failed to make any points here at all. Firstly, whether Kerry threw his medals or someone else's, he was making a statement about the war. He was protesting, it was his right, and your statement doesn't do anything to change that. In fact you just trashed your partners argument for him. Secondly, what exactly is your point? That I was wrong about whose medals Kerry actually threw? Bid deal? How does that detract from his protest of the war? How does that make him a traitor?


Actually, yes it was. Kerry was a part of the armed forces. The endeavor was to defeat the Viet Cong and the NVA in South Vietnam so as to confront communism in a war by proxy against the Soviet Union. It most certainly was an endeavor he was a part of.

No, not at all. Those would be the red herrings you are throwing out. Prove how any of this makes him anything more than a dissenter.



Which liberal lies? Please post the liberal lies you are refuting.

How does this make him "not dissatisfied with the U.S. actions in Vietnam. Please be somewhat specific.

He was referring to George Bush's academic discipline...it was a jab at WarChimp. He explained this. Uproar over Kerry Iraq remarks.
So it looks like you are the one lying here.

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GottaHurt

The first point made, is that you lied, period. Second, Kerry was so dissatisfied with the war, that he threw someone elses medals over the fence in protest, but proudly displays his on his office wall.

Yea, there's an honest protest.

My partner? I have no partners here at DP, again, you're confused.

That you lied. Big deal you say? I can see how you lying is no big deal for you.

He kept his medals, some protest if he displays them proudly on his wall. I know it's a tough one for you to figure out.

Traitor? Show me where I called him a traitor, nevermind, it's just you making sh!t up again.

I stand by my original statement, the Vietnam War was hardly an endeavour.

I can see how liberal pacifists can try to classify it that way, to lesson the impact that that Democratic fiasco had on our country.

No red herrings, just a couple of pictures showing the truth. Where have I claimed he was a dissenter, or anything more? Nevermind, more of your imaginary bullsh!t.

The lie you told saying those were his medals. Oh yea, it's no big deal when you lie.

He said what he said, quite simple language too. You can try and spin and explain it away, but Kerry once again is on the record, bad mouthing American troops.

No lies here, just pointing out yours, but for you, lying is no big deal.

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Lerxst

So you are saying Kerry didn't honestly protest the war because he threw someone else's medals? Please explain how you come to this conclusion.



Yes, Navy Pride is your partner here. This has been established in other threads as well.


Actually I had no idea Kerry threw other peoples medals away. To me it was never a big deal to begin with. So I did not lie, I simply did not know all the pertinent details. So you caught me, what can I say? I just didn't know. But my argument is not about exactly whose medals he threw, I'll give you that point. My argument with Navy, the one you injected yourself into, was about Kerry being a traitor. Now if you don't want to get involved in that fine, you made your point.



This means nothing. He protested the war. What do you not understand about this? The history of his protests are documented. I want you to spell your case out, because it's fairly weak at this point.


You jumped in the middle of an argument between Navy and I. You might think about actually reading it a bit before you jump like you do. We were talking about Navy's claim that McCain was a traitor. Get it? Since you leapt in and took up the mantle, I asked you how this made him a traitor. Your response is indicative of the fact that you got all excited when you saw I said he threw "his" medals instead of someone else's. You really don't seem interested in anything more other than talking ****.



So? All this means is that you have no idea what the definition of endeavor is. Fine. Stand by it.

Liberal pacifists? What are you on about now?

In other words they were red herrings. Again it just goes to identify your intentions.


/yawn


You are lying.



I didn't lie, you did. You see the difference is, I didn't know. You know, yet you continue with your falsehood. You are lying, I am not.

Please don't engage me anymore if all you are going to do is fuss and whine. And try not to inject red herrings into the discussion anymore.

The argument between NP and I was...is John Kerry a traitor. I say no, he says yes. I asked him to back it up. If you are going to get in the middle of our discussion, please make relevant comments, don't just come in here and lie and make inflammatory comments about the man. Now, do you have anything useful to add to the thread topic or this sub argument between NP and I?

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Navy Pride

Because a left wing whacko partisan hack like you says medal of honor winners and POWs are liars does not make it so..............

Its hard to believe anyone that hates the military like you could have ever been in it squirt........

I will probably get gigged for this but its worth it to defend honorable men who are just telling the truth about a scumbag traitor scumbag like "Lurch" Kerry............

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Navy Pride

"Lurch" Kerry was a New England snob..........He was clueless and a flip flopper who got his ass kicked in 2004 by a less the perfect candidate in GWB.....He was a cueless flip flopper..........

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Middleground

Without a cue, I guess it would be difficult to be on the ball.

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Lerxst

No, their lying words make them liars.


Just like you are being a liar now. I have never said one thing to indicate I hate the military. You can't find a post where I have done this.
You.
Are.
Lying.
AGAIN.

As I said earlier Mr. Navy Pride, anytime you wanna compare notes.

And like the lying scumbag Swiftboat Maggots for Dishonesty, the guys who tarnish the very military they served, tarnish the medals they were awarded, you have still failed to show where Kerry was a traitor. Nothing new here.

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Lerxst

So am I to take it that you can't provide any evidence of him being a traitor?

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