Reverend_Hellh0und

Excellent read.


Obama in the name of roe vs wade supported infanticide.

RedState: In 2002, Barack Obama Supported Infanticide and I've Got the Transcript of His Words

"As I understand it, this puts the burden on the attending physician who has determined, since they were performing this procedure, that, in fact, this is a nonviable fetus; that if that fetus, or child - however way you want to describe it - is now outside the mother's womb and the doctor continues to think that it's nonviable but there's, let's say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they're not just coming out limp and dead, that, in fact, they would then have to call a second physician to monitor and check off and make sure that this is not a live child that could be saved."

SHORTER BARACK OBAMA: Let's trust the guy who just botched the abortion to determine whether or not he actually did botch the abortion.

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Goobieman

The liberal left will do or say anything and everything they can in order to protect - if not expand - their "right" to take innocent human lives, whenever it is convenient for them to do so.

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independent_thinker2002

Is there a "conservative left". Why the redundancy?

It's like saying "The fast quick guy won the race."

Maybe we can go back to the old way of women just throwing themselves down flights of stairs.

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shuamort

We've been discussing this whole thing in this thread.

Iriemon

How on earth is that supporting infantcide.

CaptainCourtesy

It isn't. The OP is just making another partisan, misrepresentative statement to smear and vilify. Classic extreme right over reaction.

But wait. Tell us Reverend, how is abortion defined as infanticide by the US government? Please cite evidence and, especially, laws that indicate this. And no definitions of "infant", because I can throw plenty at you, too. Just explain how, according to US legal terminology, abortion=infanticide, so you can show us all that your OP was not just a partisan smear.

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DarkWizard12

*sigh....sigh....sigh*.

so...a breathing infant outside the womb that, if otherwise was born to a "kinder" woman could grow up and become an adult, can be left to die in a doctor's office?

okay, just wanted to know.

Zyphlin

The author's use of hyperbole with "infanticide" does himself a disservice if his desire is anything more than rallying the base. The absurd statement would likely ward off any non-committed voter or Obama supporter the moment its read as being a microcosm of a likely over the top article.

This is sad, because it does make a rather good point with Obama being the only person that spoke up during this appearantly, and supposedly denied it later on. Its one thing if its an abortion...its another thing completely if its a "fetus" outside of the body, moving and breathing on its own. I don't care what definition you use, I want to see someone saying that an unborn child/fetus OUTSIDE the mother showing signs of life is still technically the "fetus".

Still, the hyper sensationalism of the writer causes the actual post to be lost on most that will give this a small quick view

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Reverend_Hellh0und

And here we have a moderator talking down about a poster as he is usually found. Though the Good Reverend asks what this moderater prefers calling the killing a child that survived the abortion proccess?

murder? would that be a better word? What word you you prefer that would not have you attacking me calling allowing a child to die "infantiside" whining about hyperbole?




during this what? what was the specific action and circumstances involved and what is this called? no "hyperbole" please.


and what would you call allowing this "fetus" that is viable outside the womb to die because as obama indicated was the woman's desire?

Is "infanticde" really hyperbole? sorry jack I value human life enough to call things what they are.

The fact we are aborting childeren that can be "viable" and you can sit here chiding me about using the word "infanticide" speaks volumes.



yes killing childeren that can survive a botched abortion and posting a thread on it is "sensationalism"

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jallman

Actually, we're going to find ourselves in disagreement over this one. The bill that Obama refused to sign onto was a bill that blocked dr's from finishing the abortion procedure outside the womb. Basically, it was an attempt to save babies that survived botched abortions.

In essence, it does boil down to supporting infanticide or at least not taking a stand to stop it. I find it deplorable that anyone would not stand up for this bill because it is one of the few abortion restrictions that would vindicate abortion as a medical procedure and not legal murder.

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