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Old 08-24-08, 03:55 PM   #151
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Re: In 2002 Obama supported infanticide

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You did notice that I squashed that whole stance a few pages ago.
No, I didn't notice it or have any idea what you are talking about.
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Old 08-24-08, 03:57 PM   #152
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Re: In 2002 Obama supported infanticide

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No, the Republicans insist able people get off their ass and find a job within two years, or be thrown off welfare.

Democrats want to pay them welfare to their grave and fuel the problem by rewarding laziness.

That's one of many reasons why Republicans usually don't have to raise taxes, and the Democrats do.
I disagree with your characterization of fact, but how does that provide care for unwanted babies?
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Old 08-24-08, 03:58 PM   #153
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Re: In 2002 Obama supported infanticide

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Do you know how much even a single day on life support costs?
Who will absorb this expense, if not taxpayers?
Having "taxpayers" is not the same as "increasing taxes." See--you just proved my point.
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Old 08-24-08, 04:01 PM   #154
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Re: In 2002 Obama supported infanticide

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Do you know how much even a single day on life support costs?
Who will absorb this expense, if not taxpayers?
So you want taxpayers to pay for your tampons but not the saving of innocent children?
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Old 08-24-08, 04:01 PM   #155
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Re: In 2002 Obama supported infanticide

Geez you libreral monkeys...A flat tax or fair tax and reallocating could solve the problem. But, it's true that getting consensus would be hard--so...like so many liberals, the easy way is the way to go. Don't give people a "choice" (how ironic!) and TAKE MORE.

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Geez you libreral monkeys...A flat tax or fair tax and reallocating could solve the problem. But, it's true that getting consensus would be hard--so...like so many liberals, the easy way is the way to go. Don't give people a "choice" (how ironic!) and TAKE MORE.
Neither the flat tax nor the so-called fair-tax would provide more revenues, both are at best revenue neutral and more likely would result in decreased revenues. Neither "solves the problem".

Here you are complaining about taxes necessary to pay for programs for unwanted babies. You want to bring unwanted babies into the world but not the taxes necessary to provide care for them.

It's the typical conservative position.
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Old 08-24-08, 05:39 PM   #157
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Neither the flat tax nor the so-called fair-tax would provide more revenues, both are at best revenue neutral and more likely would result in decreased revenues. Neither "solves the problem".

Here you are complaining about taxes necessary to pay for programs for unwanted babies. You want to bring unwanted babies into the world but not the taxes necessary to provide care for them.

It's the typical conservative position.
Increased taxes
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Old 08-24-08, 05:45 PM   #158
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Increased taxes
Borrow money and devalue the dollar.
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Re: In 2002 Obama supported infanticide

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Borrow money and devalue the dollar.

Or, behind door number three, don't put aborted fetuses on life support.
Don't apply any heroic measures toward maintaining their lives.
Save the (fictional) money you would've used for that and apply it instead toward medical care for the born and wanted children of the poor.
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Old 08-24-08, 06:03 PM   #160
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Increased taxes
Affirming what I said. You are all for requiring the 40 million unwanted children being born, but you don't want to pay for the cost.

I really have little sympathy for the conservative position that seeks to compel the birth of unwanted children but doesn't want to pay for the cost associated with it.
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