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Old 10-27-08, 03:25 PM   #51
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Re: On a civillian national police or "national security" force

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I think we already have something similar and sufficient if we use it. That's the militia. Something like the civilian national police...I can see it as useful. If it were to watch over the government and its activities and help to protect the people against the tyranny and treason of the State. They would be created specifically to oppose the police force in terms of limiting the power of the police and ensuring that all abuse is brought to light and properly punished. But that's already taken care of in our militias. We just have to use them properly.
I was gonna try and say exactly this but it sounded barbaric the way mine sounded so I'm glad you thought of it so eloquently. The paragraph akin to yours I was thinking of sounded a bit rebellious though. I was gonna say lets call it the "People's Honorable Militia" and have it have none of authority enough to be bought through corruption. And all interactions with other police and stuff 100% on camera. All new parts of government need to have 100% monitoring and disclosure to the people. And we need to slowly merge all of the old government to this people watch too.
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Old 11-01-08, 09:21 AM   #52
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Re: On a civillian national police or "national security" force

Bad idea all around, its just another power the federal government shouldnt have.
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Old 11-09-08, 12:19 AM   #53
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Re: On a civillian national police or "national security" force

1. What do you think this would/should encompass?

Taken in conjunction with President Elect Obama's stated views, possibly it would encompass all African American or at least those who have a (black) skin.

2. Who would they protect us against.

Obviously the Honkies.

3. Who would it be made up of?

Black African Americans.

4. How will it be paid for?

Extra Taxes on Honkies

5. How will it coexist with a police force

You must have added this as a joke?

6. Do you think we even need one AKA is this a good idea.

Depends on whether you are an African American or not.

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Old 11-16-08, 06:24 PM   #54
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So this could be a Black Panther Army?
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Re: On a civillian national police or "national security" force

Obama has declared he is going to be the first person in world history to successfully occupy and control Afghanistan, plus wants to invade Pakistan to find Osama Bin Laden - Pakistan being the most powerful Muslim country and with nuclear weapons, and wants 100,000 more US troops in the military right away.

It is unlikely that Europe will assist Obama in his attempt to successfully conquer and permanently occupy Afghanistan and Pakistan, even if he does give Iraq to Iran. His wars and ongoing occupations of Muslim countries will take a lot of troops, a lot of replacement and there will be a lot of casualties.

It would seem likely that with the National Guard, the domestic army Obama wants (to be as large as the regular military), will probably have a clause that allows using Obama's domestic army for foreign action "if deemed necessary." Accordingly, Obama's domestic army would then give him 3 million more American soldiers to throw into conquest and occupation of the Muslim countries Obama has targeted.
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Old 11-16-08, 08:26 PM   #56
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Re: On a civillian national police or "national security" force

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It would seem likely that with the National Guard, the domestic army Obama wants (to be as large as the regular military), will probably have a clause that allows using Obama's domestic army for foreign action "if deemed necessary." Accordingly, Obama's domestic army would then give him 3 million more American soldiers to throw into conquest and occupation of the Muslim countries Obama has targeted.
Do you actually believe the stuff that you post?
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Do you actually believe the stuff that you post?
Yes.

Do you disagree that Obama has vowed to increase US troops in Afghanistan?
Do you disagree that while he ranted for a time limit to leave Iraq, he has never proposed one for Afghanistan - where we have been longer?
Did you forget Obama in the debate complaining about us not making more attacks into Pakistan without Pakistan's approval?
Didn't hear Obama say he wants the US military to be 100,000 more larger?
Or that Obama didn't say he wants a domestic military force "equal in size and budget" to the regular US military?

Obama has delivered to the military industrial complex what no Republican still could - foreign occupation and fighting (and therefore spending) escalation.
Haliburton will make far more off of Obama than they still could off a Republican president. Neither political party opposes war now.
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