On a civillian national police or "national security" force

Reverend_Hellh0und · 10-07-08, 12:25 PM

"creating a national CAC of 25,000 personel"

How much you want to bet gun owners and liberty minded people like me will call these people "cocks".....

American · 10-07-08, 12:30 PM

I don't know, but I guess my question is irrelevant.

dirtpoorchris · 10-10-08, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

1. What do you think this would/should encompass?

A global star wars program that enables the Fed's to "instazap" any terrorists and domestic insurgents. Free access to all civilian information interception data. Very low entry requirements.

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2. Who would they protect us against.

Duhhh. That one is obvious. Domestic homegrown terrorists.

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3. Who would it be made up of?

Smart people with intentions directing lots idiots with an erection.

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4. How will it be paid for?

Taxpayers

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5. How will it coexist with a police force

Slowlys merge and abolish.

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6. Do you think we even need one AKA is this a good idea.

Only if you wanna start workin your way to a position of authority and get your rape on in the future.

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Thank you all for participating.

No. Thank you.

jujuman13 · 10-18-08, 01:01 AM

Quote(1. What do you think this would/should encompass?)

One shudders to think what it could or may encompass.

Quote (2. Who would they protect us against.)

Ourselves?

Quote (3. Who would it be made up of?)

Wooly minded Liberal Democrats that would rapidly descend into an SS (as in German SS) type of force.

Quote (4. How will it be paid for?)

What an inane question. Any body appointed by the Government is ALWAYS funded by the taxpayer.

Quote (5. How will it coexist with a police force)

It initially would be unable to co-exist with the Police force.
Why? well you may ask.
Because it would be performing a totally different function to the security forces and Police force already in place.

Quote (6. Do you think we even need one AKA is this a good idea.)

IMHO it is a terrible idea, we are already adequately protected by the Security and Police forces.

The only possible type of force that arguably is sensible is a neighborhood force and I do believe we already have that in many instances within the USA.

DivineComedy · 10-18-08, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by American

Are you talking about this:

It doesn't appear it's a security force.

No, that is a different plan, unless he is also an inarticulate chimp puppet who got the instructions wrong and is unfit to be president based upon that.

What you have there, in that plan, is the part where the military goes away from the Roman model of the engineer soldier, and the incentive to go into the military is just to do grunt work and not learn any skills worth using after you get out.

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

699 billion divided by 25 000 = twenty-seven million nine hundred sixty thousand

Nope, different plan, but then again if they are to reach the just as powerful part...IRON MAN!

"just as strong?" Obama Posse Comitatus boy is probably thinking about body odor, right?

veganshawn · 10-18-08, 04:57 PM

I think we need to bring home our National Guard, no need for any more national police civilian or otherwise.

Harshaw · 10-21-08, 06:49 PM

So . . . Obama wants to create an army of civilian "peacekeepers"?

What color shirts will they wear?

Kernel Sanders · 10-21-08, 06:56 PM

People are still harping on about a single sentence he said months ago? Has he even mentioned it again?

dirtpoorchris · 10-25-08, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jujuman13

Quote (5. How will it coexist with a police force)

It initially would be unable to co-exist with the Police force.
Why? well you may ask.
Because it would be performing a totally different function to the security forces and Police force already in place.

Operations Falcon and the Looming Police State | War Is Crime

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Operation Falcon was allegedly the brainchild of Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and his counterpart in the US Marshal’s office, (Director) Ben Reyna. But its roots go much deeper into the nexus of right-wing Washington think tanks where fantasies of autocratic government have a long history. The name, Falcon, is an acronym for “Federal and Local Cops Organized Nationally.” It relates to the more than 960 state, local and federal agencies which are directly involved in the administration’s expansive criminal dragnets.

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On 29th June, 1934, Chancellor Adolph Hitler, accompanied by the Schutzstaffel (SS), arrived at Wiesse, where he personally arrested the leader of the Strum Abteilung (SA), Ernnst Roehm. During the next 24 hours 200 other senior SA officers were arrested on the way to Wiesse. Many were shot as soon as they were captured but Hitler decided to pardon Roehm because of his past service to the movement. However, after much pressure from Hermann Goering and Heinrich Himmler, Hitler agreed that Roehm should die. At first Hitler insisted that Roehm should be allowed to commit suicide but, when he refused, Roehm was shot by two SS men. (Spartacus.schoolnet.co)

Later, Hitler delivered a speech at the Reichstag in which he justified the murders of his rivals saying:

“If anyone reproaches me and asks why I did not resort to the regular courts of justice, then all I can say is this: In this hour I was responsible for the fate of the German people, and thereby I became the supreme judge of the German people. It was no secret that this time the revolution would have to be bloody; when we spoke of it we called it ‘The Night of the Long Knives.’ Everyone must know for all future time that if he raises his hand to strike the State, then certain death is his lot.”

The Night of the Long Knives is seen by many as the turning point where Hitler made it clear that he was above the law and the supreme leader of the German people.

Is time cyclical? Or does the worlds superpower throughout time keep pushing the reset button on humanity?

Slippery Slope · 10-25-08, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DivineComedy

No, that is a different plan, unless he is also an inarticulate chimp puppet who got the instructions wrong and is unfit to be president based upon that.

What you have there, in that plan, is the part where the military goes away from the Roman model of the engineer soldier, and the incentive to go into the military is just to do grunt work and not learn any skills worth using after you get out.

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

699 billion divided by 25 000 = twenty-seven million nine hundred sixty thousand

Nope, different plan, but then again if they are to reach the just as powerful part...IRON MAN!

"just as strong?" Obama Posse Comitatus boy is probably thinking about body odor, right?

I think you're confusing all that with the neocon plan which I believe is called "privatization".

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10-18-08, 01:01 AM	#14
jujuman13 Guru Join Date: Jun 2006 Last Seen: Today 12:55 AM Posts: 2,575 Thanks: 931 Thanked 292 Times in 192 Posts Lean: Independent Gender:	Re: On a civillian national police or "national security" force Quote(1. What do you think this would/should encompass?) One shudders to think what it could or may encompass. Quote (2. Who would they protect us against.) Ourselves? Quote (3. Who would it be made up of?) Wooly minded Liberal Democrats that would rapidly descend into an SS (as in German SS) type of force. Quote (4. How will it be paid for?) What an inane question. Any body appointed by the Government is ALWAYS funded by the taxpayer. Quote (5. How will it coexist with a police force) It initially would be unable to co-exist with the Police force. Why? well you may ask. Because it would be performing a totally different function to the security forces and Police force already in place. Quote (6. Do you think we even need one AKA is this a good idea.) IMHO it is a terrible idea, we are already adequately protected by the Security and Police forces. The only possible type of force that arguably is sensible is a neighborhood force and I do believe we already have that in many instances within the USA.

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