FOR INFIDELS: Islam and the Submission of Women

Iriemon · 07-30-08, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Your script doesn't apply to my answer. Maybe you will have to ask your higher-ups for a better response.

Try imagining a Mosque.

All the worshipers enter through a single entrance.

After the service is complete the worshipers leave through one of two exit doors.

Some worshipers exit through the moderate door and others exit through the extremist door.

What we would love to happen is that Muslims seal up the extremist door and that everyone who worships emerges as moderates.

Maybe if we didn't attack their freaking countries based on lies that extremist door would close a bit.

Iriemon · 07-30-08, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

You have twisted and turned and conveniently ignored what you had to in order to get back to your original faulty conclusion.

I will say it again.

Because of abrogation and duality the one Koran can produce two kinds of Muslims. The moderate types and the extremist types. So far, the extremist percentage runs about 30% of the total.

What, based on that UK article you cited?

Did you even read the article or just stop at the headline?

How many people have you murdered because you think murdering in the name of America is jusitified?

Utter bull****.

bhkad · 07-30-08, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

The only real Christians aren't running around blowing up people is because for the most part they are the wealthiest, control the most resources, and have the military might to effect their policies. If Christians don't like what is happening in another country, they don't have to set off a suicide bomb, they send in the F/A-18 and drop them.

You don't have to go too far back in history to see where Christians have resorted to terrorism when they had no other means. Check Ireland, the Basque region of Spain, Bosnia, etc.

Give Al-Queda or Hezbollah or whoever a couple squadron of F-22s and I'm sure they'd prefer to use them over suicide missions.

Yep. A squadron of flying bigots.

bhkad · 07-30-08, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Maybe if we didn't attack their freaking countries based on lies that extremist door would close a bit.

Cut the crap.

The door could have been closed at any time since the time of Muhammad in the 7th Century.

You use the tired old saw that it's OUR fault.

Here's a present for you.

bhkad · 07-30-08, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

What, based on that UK article you cited?

Did you even read the article or just stop at the headline?

How many people have you murdered because you think murdering in the name of America is jusitified?

Utter bull****.

You know what?

I think it's time we both calm down a bit.

Iriemon · 07-30-08, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

You know what?

I think it's time we both calm down a bit.

I thought you approved calling folks "murderers" and "extremist" because they said they'd kill to defend their country or religion.

winston53660 · 07-30-08, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

I have never said I hate the truth or education or equality.

Show me where Muslims have changed the Koran to negate the violent message any zealous believer might choose to believe.

NO one mistakes the Bible's message as anything but to love the Lord, and love thy neighbor.

But with Islam there is a dual message and you can always say that the extremists are nuts. But show me where the KORAN says they are wrong.

And keep in mind the principle of abrogation where the last instructions are the ones which take precedence.

Ya know bhkad I really do not think you are bad guy I just think you have gone over the edge.

bhkad · 07-30-08, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

I thought you approved calling folks "murderers" and "extremist" because they said they'd kill to defend their country or religion.

That's not in question. Those who'd kill for their religion ARE extremists.

THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF AN EXTREMIST!!!!!

You think that's acceptable?

And there ARE people who commit MURDER in the name of Allah.

And THEY, TOO are extremists!!!

And because I know you will bring it up, yes there are Christian extremists, too.

Violence at US Abortion Clinics

Now, that we have reciprocation we can see the subject clearly.

And these are stats from the last 10 days.

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List of Islamic Terror Attacks For the Past 2 Months
Date Country City Killed Injured Description
7/30/2008 Pakistan Dera Ismail Khan 1 3 Islamic extremists ambush a vehicle, shooting one occupant to death.
7/29/2008 Philippines Mindanao 4 1 Four Christian passengers are pulled from a bus and murdered by Islamic terrorists.
7/29/2008 Pakistan Akhun Killay 2 0 Two people are shot to death by Mujahideen.
7/29/2008 Pakistan Degan 1 0 A young woman is abducted and shot three times in the chest by Sunni extremists.
7/28/2008 Iraq Baghdad 32 102 Three female suicide bombers run into crowds of Shia pilgrims before detonating. Some thirty-two innocents are killed.
7/28/2008 Afghanistan Nuristan 3 0 A Taliban rocket attack on a residential area leaves three dead.
7/28/2008 Pakistan Kohat 2 12 A teenager is among two people blown apart when Islamic militants detonate a bomb attached to a bicycle.
7/28/2008 Iraq Kirkuk 38 178 A fedayeen suicide bomber attacks a political rally, slaughtering nearly forty people.
7/28/2008 Pakistan Matta 3 2 Three Pakistanis in a truck are shot to death by Tehrik-e-Taliban terrorists.
7/28/2008 Pakistan Mohmand 1 0 A 60-year-old man is abducted and murdered by the Mujahideen.
7/28/2008 Iraq Mussayab 1 0 A woman is abducted, tied up and then murdered by suspected fundamentalists.
7/27/2008 Iraq Buhriz 2 0 Two oil workers are murdered by Jihadi bombers.
7/27/2008 Pakistan Charbagh 1 5 A child is killed when fundamentalists bomb a shopping center.
7/27/2008 Iraq Baghdad 7 0 Seven young Shia pilgrims on foot are shot at point-blank range by Sunni gunmen.
7/27/2008 Iraq Fallujah 2 2 Radical Sunnis bomb a house, killing two occupants.
7/26/2008 India Ahmedabad 53 161 Islamic bombers rock India for a second day, setting seventeen bombs and killing over fifty innocent people.
7/26/2008 Lebanon Tripoli 9 50 A 10-year-old boy and a woman are among nine people killed in a sectarian conflict between Sunni and Alawite.
7/26/2008 Iraq Hilla 1 0 Islamic gunmen take down a 4-year-old girl.
7/26/2008 Somalia Gedo 3 0 Islamic militia shoot three people to death at a roadblock.
7/26/2008 Pakistan Dera Bugti 3 0 Three local cops are murdered by Islamists in separate attacks.
7/25/2008 India Bangalore 2 10 Islamists set off a series of bombs, leaving two innocents dead, including a woman.
7/25/2008 Bangladesh Sadar 1 0 Suspected Jama'atul Mujahideen strangle a woman, then hang her from a tree.
7/25/2008 Pal. Auth. Gaza 1 15 A bomb kills a young girl.
7/25/2008 Pal. Auth. Gaza 1 3 A bomb set outside a Christian cafe kills one person.
7/24/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamists shoot a 63-year-old villager to death.
7/24/2008 Philippines Digos 2 10 A group tied to the Moro Islamic Front is suspected in the bombing of a bus in which two people died.
7/24/2008 Iraq Baqubah 8 25 A female suicide bomber kills eight Sunni Iraqis.
7/24/2008 Yemen Sayoun 4 12 al-Qaeda is suspected in the car bombing of a ministry building that leaves four dead.
7/24/2008 India Doda 4 0 A woman and a 13-year-old girl are among four civilians shot to death during a Hizb-ul-Mujahideen home invasion.
7/24/2008 India Srinagar 5 28 Four children, ages 4 to 12, are killed along with a woman from the same family of migrant workers when Islamic terrorists throw a grenade into a bus stop.
7/24/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 A 30-year-old schoolteacher is murdered by Islamic gunmen on his way to work.
7/24/2008 Afghanistan Paktia 3 4 Talibanis murder three local police with a bomb.
7/23/2008 Afghanistan Nangarhar 1 2 Religious extremists murder a local cop with a bomb.
7/23/2008 Iraq Muqdadiyah 1 0 A young woman is killed in a Jihad roadside bombing.
7/23/2008 Thailand Pattani 1 0 Islamists gun down a school bus driver in a drive-by shooting.
7/23/2008 Somalia Jowhar 1 0 Islamic militia assassinate a local official.
7/23/2008 Algeria Lakhdaria 0 13 A suicide bomber on a motorbike injures thirteen Algerians.
7/22/2008 Afghanistan Ghazni 4 1 The Taliban kidnaps a man after invading his home and killing his four sons.
7/22/2008 Israel Jerusalem 0 11 A Palestinian attempts to run Israelis down with a bulldozer.
7/22/2008 Philippines Aleosan 1 1 Moro Islamists shoot a 62-year-old woman to death as she is farming her field.
7/22/2008 Afghanistan Khost 4 3 A woman and child are among four civilians blown up by Sunni bombers.
7/22/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 0 A 41-year-old rubber worker is shot to death by Muslim militants.
7/22/2008 Thailand Narathiwat 1 5 A local soldier is killed in an Islamist bomb blast.
7/21/2008 Afghanistan North Waziristan 2 0 Two civilians are abducted and murdered by Talibanis.
7/21/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 7 12 Three children are among seven killed in an Islamic militia mortar attack.
7/21/2008 Pakistan Bajur 1 2 Islamic militants gun down an elderly man riding in a car.
7/21/2008 Iraq Saidiya 7 8 al-Qaeda kill seven Iraqis by planting a bomb on a tractor.
7/21/2008 Afghanistan Paktika 1 3 Sunni extremists attack the home of a former governor, killing him and injuring members of his family.
7/21/2008 Iraq Mosul 6 8 Freedom Fighters murder six Iraqis in various attacks.
7/21/2008 China Kunming 2 10 The Turkestan Islamic Party takes credit for a bus bombing that leaves two dead.
7/20/2008 India Reasi 1 0 A civilian is shot to death outside his home by Mujahideen.
7/20/2008 Chechnya Grozny 3 0 Suspect Islamic rebels kill three policemen in cold blood.
7/20/2008 Afghanistan Laghman 6 0 Six civilians are killed when Sunni hardliners blow up a fuel truck and a nearby minibus with a rocket.
7/20/2008 India Gulmarg 2 5 An 8-year-old boy is among two people killed when Islamic terrorists toss a grenade into a resort.
7/20/2008 Iraq Basra 1 0 A suspected prostitute is shot to death by fundamentalists.
7/20/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 6 11 Six people are killed when Islamic hardliners attack a government patrol along a city street.
7/20/2008 Thailand Pattani 3 0 Islamic terrorists shoot three villagers to death.
7/19/2008 India Srinagar 10 16 Hizb-ul-Mujahedeen kill ten Indian soldiers in transport with a horrific bomb attack on their convoy.
7/19/2008 Pakistan Tirah 9 10 Lashkar-e-Islam and Ansar-ul-Islam clash over sectarian differences, leaving nine people dead.
7/19/2008 Lebanon Ain el-Helweh 1 0 Jund al-Sham gunmen take out a member of a reconciliation committee.
7/19/2008 Pakistan Mohmand 4 0 The Taliban murder four hostages in cold blood.
7/19/2008 Pal. Auth. Jabaliya 1 0 Suspected Hamas militants shoot a Fatah activist in his home.
7/19/2008 Afghanistan Kandahar 4 1 Sunni extremists murder four local cops with a roadside bomb.
7/19/2008 Turkey Bosphorus 1 0 A gay man is shot to death in a suspected 'honor' killing.
7/19/2008 Iraq Tikrit 3 0 Freedom Fighters kill three Iraqis with automatic weapons.
7/18/2008 Pakistan South Waziristan 3 0 Three civilians are brutally executed by al-Qaeda backed militants.
7/18/2008 Pakistan North Waziristan 1 0 The head of a local madrassa is gunned down by sectarian rivals.
7/18/2008 Iraq Mosul 4 7 A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out four Iraqis.
7/18/2008 Somalia Mogadishu 3 0 Muslim gunmen shoot three elders to death for helping humanitarian effots.
7/18/2008 India Banihal 0 36 Three dozen people, mostly women and children, are injured when Islamic terrorists toss a grenade into a crowded market.
7/18/2008 Afghanistan Helmand 3 4 Three Afghan guards are killed when religious hardliners bomb their convoy.
7/18/2008 India Udhampur 1 0 A civilian is abducted and murdered by the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen.

TheReligionofPeace.com - Islam: Making a True Difference in the World

All of these people were murdered, but let's just take the numbers of those where the word murder is used here by the 'religion of peace' editor.

I'll leave it to you to do the math.

Islam breeds extremists and on a significant level no one but the West is doing anything to address the problem.

We are arresting and punishing Christian extremists.

Now. Your turn.

Stop your extremists.

bhkad · 07-30-08, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by winston53660

Ya know bhkad I really do not think you are bad guy I just think you have gone over the edge.

I'm coocoo for cocoa puffs.

winston53660 · 07-30-08, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

I'm coocoo for cocoa puffs.

LOL...I went shopping for Fruity Pebbles tonight.

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