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Old 07-24-08, 12:27 PM   #31
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Re: Obama to demand more from Europe in Berlin speech

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Just because the majority votes on it does not make it good. The Algerian people voted away their rights when they voted the Islamist Party into power in their democratic election of 1991. But before the Islamists could take control the military rebelled and that set off a decade of violence in that country of appx 25,000,000 people, which left more than 200,000 dead.

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And becoming a Hitler-like Messiah is not only possible but is being demonstrated by the SOB (Socialist, Obama).
Nothing you've presented changes the facts that one can only attempt to be a self-appointed messiah, one cannot accomplish it.
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Old 07-24-08, 12:30 PM   #32
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At least he's acting like one. We haven't had a leader that's acted like a President for practically a decade.....all we've had is "the decider".
.....because you say so.
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Old 07-24-08, 12:33 PM   #33
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So I'm to gather that you don't want Europe to be more engaged in these conflicts? How bizarre.
Ah yes, another Liberal myth that once the beloved Barrack Hussein Obama is ordained the leader of the Free World, the World will be more inclined to be engaged in future conflicts.

One thing is certain, reality is a stranger when reading Liberal rhetoric.

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Old 07-24-08, 12:34 PM   #34
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Germany and France likely would have elected the same governments if Kerry had won in '04.
Likely? Stick to the facts.

Fact, Cherac and Schroeder were anti-Bush, Sarkosy and Merkel are both pro Bush. That shows a shift in thinking from the previous administrations. The old socialist parties of Cherac and Schroeder were exposed for the frauds that they were.

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I fail to see how either Sarkozy or Merkel constitute a European endorsement of the Bush administration!
Please take the time to read through the link below, very interesting read.

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Opinion polls about the upcoming US elections show Obama miles and miles in front in Europe!
It doesn't matter what the polls in Europe say, they won't be voting in our election.

In 2004, the exit polls at 2pm EST had John Kerry in a landslide, by 7pm EST, he was on suicide watch.

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Old 07-24-08, 12:38 PM   #35
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By showing that were are rejecting the "isolationist" policies of Bush....meaning alienating our allies and choosing to "go it alone" rather than appeal to our common interests.
Another favorite Liberal myth that wants to argue that 34 nations joining us is somehow "going it alone."

This same inane Liberal myth also professes that unless France, Germany, Russia and China are with you, you are also "going it alone."


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Obama's speech will show that he is interested in our allies in Europe and that he wants to begin to work with them again and begin to repair the damage of the last 8 years.
Obama's speech will only serve to continue to illustrate the empty headed rhetoric of an ultra Liberal. But hey, since when does REALITY play any part of Liberal politics, EH?


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So again....who do you think is the right man for the job. Its one thing to constantly criticize.....why not offer an alternative?
The answer to this is easy, McCain. But technically, anyone with common sense would be better.

Speaking of constant criticism, how about all that Bush bashing?

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By the consistent tone of your posts....its pretty obvious that although you don't claim to be a McCain supporter, you obviously are.
OMG, you “outted” him!! HE COULD BE A MCCAIN SUPPORTER!! OMG!!!

I think he just prefers common sense.
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Old 07-24-08, 12:38 PM   #36
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Ah yes, another Liberal myth that once the beloved Barrack Hussein Obama is ordained the leader of the Free World, the World will be more inclined to be engaged in future conflicts.

One thing is certain, reality is a stranger when reading Liberal rhetoric.

Please indicate where I said anything that you are suggesting that I said? I addressed nothing mythical or Obama. The question remains, are you able to address it?
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Re: Obama to demand more from Europe in Berlin speech

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Fact, Cherac and Schroeder were anti-Bush, Sarkosy and Merkel are both pro Bush. That shows a shift in thinking from the previous administrations. The old socialist parties of Cherac and Schroeder were exposed for the frauds that they were.
In European countries there is a historic trend of shifting back and forth between more socialist and then more conservative politicians. I would argue that this is more part of that ebb and flow than it is to do with support of Bush. Right now in the Western world conservativism is rising again to take the place of liberal governments. Then, it will eventually be displaced again.
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Nothing you've presented changes the facts that one can only attempt to be a self-appointed messiah, one cannot accomplish it.
Ok. So instead of being a messiah, how about we agree that Obama is just a mess?

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Old 07-24-08, 01:21 PM   #39
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Re: Obama to demand more from Europe in Berlin speech

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Ah yes, another Liberal myth that once the beloved Barrack Hussein Obama is ordained the leader of the Free World, the World will be more inclined to be engaged in future conflicts.

One thing is certain, reality is a stranger when reading Liberal rhetoric.

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Please indicate where I said anything that you are suggesting that I said? I addressed nothing mythical or Obama. The question remains, are you able to address it?
Did you not make this statement in rebuttal to the OP?

“Summerwind; So I'm to gather that you don't want Europe to be more engaged in these conflicts? How bizarre. “

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Obama to demand more from Europe in Berlin speech - swissinfo

And here is Obama already pretending to be president at a campaign stop using my tax dollars.

Pathetic.

BTW did anyone else notice the Jimmy carter cabinet members with Obama's campaign in the ME.


It appears to any REASONABLE person, that you are indeed suggesting that you were “insinuating” that a Barrack Hussein Obama Presidency would result in “more” engagement and cooperation from Europe.

If that was NOT your premise, then I am mistaken or you need to learn better prose.
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Old 07-24-08, 01:27 PM   #40
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Ah yes, another Liberal myth that once the beloved Barrack Hussein Obama is ordained the leader of the Free World, the World will be more inclined to be engaged in future conflicts.

One thing is certain, reality is a stranger when reading Liberal rhetoric.



Did you not make this statement in rebuttal to the OP?

“Summerwind; So I'm to gather that you don't want Europe to be more engaged in these conflicts? How bizarre. “

In response to this?

Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und
Obama to demand more from Europe in Berlin speech - swissinfo

And here is Obama already pretending to be president at a campaign stop using my tax dollars.

Pathetic.

BTW did anyone else notice the Jimmy carter cabinet members with Obama's campaign in the ME.


It appears to any REASONABLE person, that you are indeed suggesting that you were “insinuating” that a Barrack Hussein Obama Presidency would result in “more” engagement and cooperation from Europe.

If that was NOT your premise, then I am mistaken or you need to learn better prose.
I question your ability to determine what a reasonable person would interpret. Nuff said.
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