Obama to demand more from Europe in Berlin speech

winston53660 · 07-24-08, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

I just noticed PeteE/U thanked you.

funny how you don't go after his non-stop McCain threads.

Why should disneydude do that? If Obama has vote? Or he leans to the left?

Reverend_Hellh0und · 07-24-08, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by disneydude

The difference is, he doesn't deny that he is pro-Obama. I have no problem with people supporting McCain.....but at least be honest about it.
When you claim to not be a supporter....and your posts tell a completely different story....its very telling.
And....I think this IS debating the topic....because you have to understand the context of the underlying post in order to honestly and openly debate the issue.

When you either...(1) admit that your constant anti-Obama posts are due to your support of McCain....or (2) post a single thread critical of McCain....maybe I'll believe youl

http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-ele...post1057677966

Now will you finally give it a rest?

disneydude · 07-24-08, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-ele...post1057677966

Now will you finally give it a rest?

absolutely....

Bergslagstroll · 07-24-08, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Right like this "Common interest"?

Friends of Saddam

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GottaHurt · 07-24-08, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Orius

I'm more interested in the fact that the EU is receiving him like the next President. It somewhat indicates what other parts of the world are hoping for.

Not exactly. The media and the youth of Europe are greeting him that way. The voters in Germany and France elected pro American governments.

You can interview, flash news clips/soundbites and poll all you want, it's the actual votes that count.

This liberal nonsense of how we've "alienated" the rest of the world is just that, nonsense.

We had a coalition of 39 other countries from around the world involved with us in Iraq.

Even our enemies want to do/do business with us. We elect our officials to make the tough decisions, not win a popularity contest.

Iraq Obama - Complete withdrawal / Invade Pakistan

bhkad · 07-24-08, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und

Oh indeed. The fact that there may be a million there is shocking and should be a clue to Americans this is the wrong man for the job.

Although this set up of the Obama is an interesting thing. Almost like watching a train wreck and adding a semi to the tracks.

When this man becomes the next carter, it's going to be fun.

Barack Obama: Self-Appointed Messiah. Extremism in Defense of Liberty

Slainte · 07-24-08, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GottaHurt

Not exactly. The media and the youth of Europe are greeting him that way. The voters in Germany and France elected pro American governments.

Huh?

Germany and France likely would have elected the same governments if Kerry had won in '04. I fail to see how either Sarkozy or Merkel constitute a European endorsement of the Bush administration!

Opinion polls about the upcoming US elections show Obama miles and miles in front in Europe!

Summerwind · 07-24-08, 11:57 AM

It is impossible to be a self-appointed messiah. Period.

bhkad · 07-24-08, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by disneydude

The difference is, he doesn't deny that he is pro-Obama. I have no problem with people supporting McCain.....but at least be honest about it.
When you claim to not be a supporter....and your posts tell a completely different story....its very telling.
And....I think this IS debating the topic....because you have to understand the context of the underlying post in order to honestly and openly debate the issue.

When you either...(1) admit that your constant anti-Obama posts are due to your support of McCain....or (2) post a single thread critical of McCain....maybe I'll believe youl

Liberals just can't seem to grasp that Conservatives generally do things for reasons having to do with more than just petty emotionalism.

During the 2004 Presidential campaign some Libs thought we lobbied so hard against Kerry because we were just being stubborn.

YIKES!

The reason was because we knew that leaving Iraq would be a disaster for this country, for the cause of freedom in the world and for stability in the Middle East.

Also, during the 2004 campaign the Libs thought that simply aligning themselves with ex-Servicemen like Kerry, Chuck Hagel and that furka Murtha, that they could win the Conservative vote.

YIKES!

The reason their status as veterans didn't matter was that they were on the wrong side of the war issue.

It is clear that many liberals think that Conservatives are as shallow as they are.

The reason anyone is and every good American should be against Obama has to do with his seamy associates, his lack of experience and most seriously, his SOCIALISM.

Barack Obama is a Socialist.

And what's wrong with Socialism? (My next thread subject maybe!)

Here's a quote from an American responding to a Washington Post article on Obama.

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Bottom line is that socialism turns prosperous nations into cesspools. There are very few people who would work if you offered them free housing, free food, and free healthcare instead. The US is now at a crossroads. We can continue on the path that has made us the most prosperous nation in history, or we can go down the dark road to socialist squalor. If you want the latter, vote Obama.

Posted by: Avenger | May 19, 2008 2:15 AM

Record Obama Crowd, the Size of a City | The Trail | washingtonpost.com

bhkad · 07-24-08, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwind

It is impossible to be a self-appointed messiah. Period.

Just because the majority votes on it does not make it good. The Algerian people voted away their rights when they voted the Islamist Party into power in their democratic election of 1991. But before the Islamists could take control the military rebelled and that set off a decade of violence in that country of appx 25,000,000 people, which left more than 200,000 dead.

Algerian Civil War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Many things implemented at the wish of the majority are unjust, unfair, or morally repugnant. Nazism was a majority case. Slavery was a majority decision in the antebellum South. Lynchings are majority decisions by the assembled mob. No: That something is the wish of the majority does not make it right. Majority rule is a fine principle only inasmuch as it preserves the rights of the minority and the rule of law, even if the minority are those who risk their own resources to start, own, and maintain businesses. What about their rights when the majority would rather take their profits by force?

What's Wrong With Socialism | Gongol.com

And becoming a Hitler-like Messiah is not only possible but is being demonstrated by the SOB (Socialist, Obama).

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As friendly and appealing as (Obama's ed.) socialist propaganda may sound on the surface, it is littered with philosophical junk. Its foundation is rotten and its intellectual workmanship shoddy. We risk most our own well-being whenever we grant socialism undeserved credibility.

What's Wrong With Socialism | Gongol.com

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