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Old 07-24-08, 03:37 PM   #11
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Re: The 2008 Democration National Convention thread




Barack Obama: Self-Appointed Messiah. Extremism in Defense of Liberty

If you are wondering how Obama can do all of this, it is a practiced skill combined with innate talent.

Aside from his formal academic training he also learned and taught the Alinsky method of revolutionary change.

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For several years, Obama himself taught workshops on the Alinsky method.

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HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE OBAMA ORGANIZATIONAL STRATEGY

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In the Alinsky model, “organizing” is a euphemism for “revolution” -- a wholesale revolution whose ultimate objective is the systematic acquisition of power by a purportedly oppressed segment of the population, and the radical transformation of America’s social and economic structure.

The goal is to foment enough public discontent, moral confusion, and outright chaos to spark the social upheaval that Marx, Engels, and Lenin predicted -- a revolution whose foot soldiers view the status quo as fatally flawed and wholly unworthy of salvation. Thus, the theory goes, the people will settle for nothing less than that status quo’s complete collapse -- to be followed by the erection of an entirely new system upon its ruins. Toward that end, they will be apt to follow the lead of charismatic radical organizers who project an aura of confidence and vision, and who profess to clearly understand what types of societal “changes” are needed.

As Alinsky put it: “A reformation means that the masses of our people have reached the point of disillusionment with past ways and values. They don’t know what will work but they do know that the prevailing system is self-defeating, frustrating, and hopeless. They won’t act for change but won’t strongly oppose those who do. The time is then ripe for revolution.”[1]


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Re: The 2008 Democration National Convention thread

That's really dumb. I mean, really really dumb.
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Old 07-24-08, 06:33 PM   #13
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That's really dumb. I mean, really really dumb.
And the fact that the American people are falling for it doesn't mean they are also, dumb, dumb, dumb, but that the techniques, work, work, work!
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Re: The 2008 Democration National Convention thread

The Democrats don't want to give us, the consumer, a break on federal gas taxes for the summer, yet they aren't paying the taxes themselves.

They've been filling up tax free in Denver.

The committee hosting the Democratic National Convention has used the city's gas pumps to fill up and apparently avoided paying state and federal fuel taxes.

DNC host's tax-free gas evaporates : Updates : The Rocky Mountain News
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Old 07-30-08, 08:06 PM   #15
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Re: The 2008 Democration National Convention thread

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Barack Obama: Self-Appointed Messiah. Extremism in Defense of Liberty

If you are wondering how Obama can do all of this, it is a practiced skill combined with innate talent.

Aside from his formal academic training he also learned and taught the Alinsky method of revolutionary change.



HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE OBAMA ORGANIZATIONAL STRATEGY
What a cogent analysis. Obama is popular, therefore he is a Nazi. Don't get mad at Obama just because it's impossible to get excited about McCain
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What a cogent analysis. Obama is popular, therefore he is a Nazi. Don't get mad at Obama just because it's impossible to get excited about McCain
OK, maybe you'll like this analysis better.

In preparation for a joint Israeli-US attack on Iran's nuclear sites Obama secretly visited all the Mid East and European leaders to either tell them a cover story or give them advance notice so they wouldn't respond chaotically when the attack occurs.

And in exchange for his willingness to serve his country in this way the Bilderbergers agreed to allow him to become president in November.

There.

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Re: The 2008 Democration National Convention thread

...I heard one time Obama kicked a troops baby because it wasn't a Muslim.

This thread is now a candidate for my Freedom Eagle Shark (Dolphin) of Freedom Award.
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Re: The 2008 Democration National Convention thread

C'mon people, let's try to keep this thread on topic.

There's a lot of cool stuff going on, whether good or bad.

The interviews with the homeless are interesting to say the least, their perspective on the pros and cons of free events and being temporarily relocated are varied.

Protestors are talking about camping in the parks much like the homeless are, and the mayor has hinted at "turning the sprinklers on".
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Re: The 2008 Democration National Convention thread

There's anything but party unity going on. Maybe that's why they're beefing up security, it's not the protestors, but the democrats themselves.

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Re: The 2008 Democration National Convention thread

It looks like The Denver Group will be standing at the ready to protest at the DNC if a roll call isn't allowed.

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