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Old 08-21-08, 02:00 PM   #111
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Re: Iraq insists on withdrawal timetable

I think after Russia's aggressive Georgian episode and now aggression towards Poland for the missile shield issue... ppl will flock to vote for McCain as war and troops becomes yet another impt issue. McCain certainly beats Obama in this area having more war experience and knowing what to do in war situations.

Sometimes u can't have diplomacy esp against big bullies. My guess is more ppl will vote for McCain than Obama for mths to come.

Since the election is in Nov, it won't be that long now.
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Old 08-21-08, 02:02 PM   #112
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Pulling out the troops because the war is won?
Seems to me that it takes away a big campaign issue for Obama, and gives significant supprot to McCain for having backed the right side of the issue.
YOU KNOW. I remember not too long ago the Republicans INCLUDING McCain were saying a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops would give the terrorists a heads up on how long they have to wait until the U.S. forces are gone*. But I guess in an election year contradictions in GOP Rhetoric aren't that big of a deal.

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It's clear that the ONLY reason McCain is now supporting or even talking about an exit timetable is because 60%+ of the American people are in a disagreement of some sort with the war. But hey, it could just be because McCain genuinely believes Iraq is won. But I seriously doubt it.
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Old 08-21-08, 02:14 PM   #113
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YOU KNOW. I remember not too long ago the Republicans INCLUDING McCain were saying a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops would give the terrorists a heads up on how long they have to wait until the U.S. forces are back. .
What you're deliberately leaving out, like a good partisan bigot, is that you -also- understand that the situation then was different than it is now, the terrorist haveing been defeated, and that the defeat of the terrorists as well as stability in Iraq was stated, liteterally and implicityly by the "no timetable" crowd as pre-requisite for the withdrawl of troops.

But don't you DARE let intellectual honesty get in the way of a good rant.
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Old 08-21-08, 03:40 PM   #114
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What you're deliberately leaving out, like a good partisan bigot, is that you -also- understand that the situation then was different than it is now,
Really? In what shape manner or form? The death rate from gunfire is at 20 a day. Above 2004 and 2003 levels. Same goes for deaths due to suicide but hey here are the graphs. I know you GOPers need visual help sometimes.

Iraq Body Count

Deaths per day from suicide attacks and vehicle bombs (now includes non-vehicle suicide attacks)



Deaths per day from gunfire / executions



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the terrorist haveing been defeated,
Proven untrue by statistics alone.

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and that the defeat of the terrorists as well as stability in Iraq was stated, liteterally and implicityly by the "no timetable" crowd as pre-requisite for the withdrawl of troops.
Alright Goobie this is the game you want to play? Fine - In what manner have the terrorists been 'defeated'? Did 'winning' mean that we'd bring violence down? Was that what winning meant? That sounds to me like a massive from the Republican crowd who wants to get that 60% on their side in an election year.

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Old 08-22-08, 06:29 PM   #115
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Rice says US-Iraq coming together on timetables - Yahoo! News

Rice says US-Iraq coming together on timetables



Update on the situation.
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US, Iraq have draft to pull US troops out - Yahoo! News

US, Iraq have draft to pull US troops out



Great. US troops to be out of Iraq by next Jun. Finally, a firm date. This calls for celebration
fyi, you are not supposed to copy/paste the entire article- - copyright infringement
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Deaths per day from suicide attacks and vehicle bombs (now includes non-vehicle suicide attacks)



Deaths per day from gunfire / executions

something about those two graphs just don't seem to add up
it's like whats wrong with this picture, but i just can't figure it out
it is something about the look of them, i am sure
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Re: Iraq insists on withdrawal timetable

The difference is Obama wants to surrender....He wants to cut and run......McCain wants to win the war and then leave........

Huge difference...........
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The difference is Obama wants to surrender....He wants to cut and run......McCain wants to win the war and then leave........

Huge difference...........
And he's a secret closet zombie radical Islamic Godzilla too yeah?

ABC News: Obama's Iraq Withdrawal Plan May Prove Difficult

Try again Navy.
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