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Benefits from Obesity Surgery / Stomach Stapling

Please note that personally I am not at all fat (6'2" and 185 pounds) and never had any surgery. This just FYI.

It appears that this stomach stapling surgery is something of a silver bullet, possibly curing everything from type-2 diabetes, to high cholesterol, high blood pressure, heart disease, sleep apnea and warding off cancer.

Please keep this quiet however, because if the US drug companies find out about this, they will make it illegal.

Obesity surgery may cure diabetes - Diabetes - MSNBC.com (& check out the video from this link)

Diabetes Research Summary - Weight-loss Surgery Improves Diabetes and Other Illnesses - American Diabetes Association

Stomach Stapling Surgery May Help Ward off Cancer | Discover Magazine





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Old 06-23-08, 04:42 AM   #2
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Re: Benefits from Obesity Surgery / Stomach Stapling

I've seen this work wonders on some people and not even work on others. I have an aunt who had this surgery performed almost 2 years ago, and she has only lost 40 pounds. She eats very little, but the weight drop is not what I had seen with a former co-worker who lost over 200 pounds post-surgery.
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Re: Benefits from Obesity Surgery / Stomach Stapling

Couldn't diet & exercise accomplish the same thing WITHOUT having surgery? Get your fat lazy ass off the couch(not you popper, just generally), on the treadmill, go to the gym, take a freakin' walk, quit eating bacon every hour on the hour, eat some baked chicken or fish...

And, you won't have to have invasive surgery... and it costs a lot less money ... geez...
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Re: Benefits from Obesity Surgery / Stomach Stapling

A girl I went to school with died having this surgery.
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Re: Benefits from Obesity Surgery / Stomach Stapling

I got a better idea. Put the fork down and step away from the cheesecake.


Go outside and jog a little.
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Re: Benefits from Obesity Surgery / Stomach Stapling

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Couldn't diet & exercise accomplish the same thing WITHOUT having surgery? Get your fat lazy ass off the couch(not you popper, just generally), on the treadmill, go to the gym, take a freakin' walk, quit eating bacon every hour on the hour, eat some baked chicken or fish...

And, you won't have to have invasive surgery... and it costs a lot less money ... geez...
I generally have little empathy for obese people, until they can prove to me that their weight problem is caused by hormonal/glandular issues. It is safe to assume most obese people are simply out of shape fat asses who let it go, until the health issues started creeping up and then all of the sudden, in American fashion, they want an immediate fix. And I am talking about real obese people according to body fat %. Not people that are obese per the fraudulent BMI charts.
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I generally have little empathy for obese people, until they can prove to me that their weight problem is caused by hormonal/glandular issues. It is safe to assume most obese people are simply out of shape fat asses who let it go, until the health issues started creeping up and then all of the sudden, in American fashion, they want an immediate fix. And I am talking about real obese people according to body fat %. Not people that are obese per the fraudulent BMI charts.
Amen... My ex wife used to bitch all the time about the fact that she was fat, but wouldn't do anything about it... and because when we got married, she WASN'T fat, I didn't have the patience to listen to her complain about it...
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Re: Benefits from Obesity Surgery / Stomach Stapling

Fat people evoke an instinctive revulsion in many.
As best I can figure, it's due to some primal instinct left over from tribal times, when food was scarce, and people who ate more than their share were bad people, people who deserved to be shunned and outcast.

Today, obviously, that no longer applies, but there still seems to be a collective perception of fat people as undesirable- greedy, lazy, incompetent, whatever- in the workplace and elsewhere.

I can see why the obese would resort to this extreme measure. They are discriminated against in every facet of life.
But it is very dangerous.
And one can still consume massive amounts of calories, even with a severely reduced stomach capacity; one can, for instance, eat ice cream or sip milkshakes all day long.

I guess it's worked for some people, but equally many seem to have terrible problems with it, and end up having it reversed. And the rate of people who die as a result of this surgery seems excessive, even as compared to other major abdominal surgeries. And they are usually young people, in their prime.

I've never known anybody who had it, so my knowledge of it is limited; I've read a little about it, that's it. I don't have any actual statistics on it.
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Fat people evoke an instinctive revulsion in many.
As best I can figure, it's due to some primal instinct left over from tribal times, when food was scarce, and people who ate more than their share were bad people, people who deserved to be shunned and outcast.
Actually, throughout most of history being overweight has been considered a sign of wealth, power, and good fortune. It was highly desirable in a mate in many, many cultures.
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Actually, throughout most of history being overweight has been considered a sign of wealth, power, and good fortune. It was highly desirable in a mate in many, many cultures.
Now you are just showing off your 9th grade education.
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