McCain: Guantanamo Ruling One of the ‘Worst Decisions’ in History

Navy Pride · 06-13-08, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkWizard12

How long has the court been owned by the left exactly?

Probably the last 50 years or at least since that horrible law Re V Wade wae enacted in 1972......why?

Iriemon · 06-13-08, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mikhail

What i dont get is why for example if they where caught in Afganistan why not keep them there?

It could be possible to do a deal with cuba to get past this ruling or just release them in Cuba.

I believe they do keeps thousands of prisoners in Afganistan and scores of thousands in Iraq.

Here's an article about it.

Foreign Policy In Focus | The "Surge" of Iraqi Prisoners

It's not been news because I'm sure that prison guards after Abu Grave have been a bit more discretionary with photos being taken. Without the photos it's back page news, if news at all.

I haven't tried to corrobarate the article, but a system of justice appears to be another area where the occupation of Iraq is not proceeding very effectively.

mikhail · 06-13-08, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon

I dont think that they were all captured in Afghanistan

Yes but of those who where who thought it was a good idea to bring them to semi US territory.

Navy Pride · 06-13-08, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

What is so outrageous about it?

As far as I can determine, the ruling simply provides that the prisoner's have habeus corpus rights. What is so outrageous about the Court determining the prisoners have the right to challenge their detention, a right that has been recognized to prisoners for well before the US was a nation.

What seems more outrageous to me is that a man who is a candidate for presidency would be criticizing a decision that provides a fundamental right long recognized (it's called the great writ) to people thrown in jail -- the right to claim that they are wrongly held.

These scum are not American Citizens........They are just like the German and Japanese POWs............They are being treated better in Gitmo then the prisoners in prison here in the USA........

Navy Pride · 06-13-08, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

I don't think enemy combatants have a right to habaeus corpus. I'm less inclined toward a president that would want those who attempt to destroy our way of life to benefit from our laws and privileges.

Obama wants to kiss their ass........McCain says let them eat cake.............a clear difference and a winner for McCain.......

Hatuey · 06-13-08, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Navy Pride

........They are being treated better in Gitmo then the prisoners in prison here in the USA........

I seriously doubt that.

Iriemon · 06-13-08, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Navy Pride

Probably the last 50 years or at least since that horrible law Re V Wade wae enacted in 1972......why?

I'll speculate for DarkWizard12 - Since 7 of the 9 were appointed by Republican presidents, many would disagree with your claim that the court is "owned by the left."

Iriemon · 06-13-08, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Navy Pride

These scum are not American Citizens........They are just like the German and Japanese POWs............They are being treated better in Gitmo then the prisoners in prison here in the USA........

So what is so outrageous with the Courts determining that, as has been done for, oh, 8 centuries or so.

Iriemon · 06-13-08, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Navy Pride

Obama wants to kiss their ass........McCain says let them eat cake.............a clear difference and a winner for McCain.......

A clear victotry for those who have a problem with the Govt having to prove people are guilty before locking people away, I'll grant that.

DeeJayH · 06-13-08, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jallman

I don't think enemy combatants have a right to habeas corpus. I'm less inclined toward a president that would want those who attempt to destroy our way of life to benefit from our laws and privileges.

absolutely
since when has our enemy, in a time of war, got to go to federal court?

since when has our enemy been considered a criminal in need of a court date?
does this mean that our soldiers have to mirandize(sp?) the enemy?
also heard that Federal judges are very hesitant to go against the military, making this a rather ineffective ruling

wars are not won in court
they are won on the battlefield, in interrogation rooms, and in diplomatic channels

I must agree with McCain on this one
unless any of you can come up with a better reason than what has been posted so far.

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