Skip

This is the first division?!?

Try:

*War in Iraq
*Health Care
*Environment
*The economy

Just to name a few.

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"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." President Bush, under "Mission Accomplished" banner, May 1, 2003.
Since then, more than 3,970 American soldiers have died in Iraq.

jallman

I don't think enemy combatants have a right to habaeus corpus. I'm less inclined toward a president that would want those who attempt to destroy our way of life to benefit from our laws and privileges.

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Prayer and blasphemy...the two are so narrowly separated in these trying times.

Skip

But our Constitution bestows those rights upon everyone that we claim jurisdiction over, including those labeled "enemy combatants".

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"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed." President Bush, under "Mission Accomplished" banner, May 1, 2003.
Since then, more than 3,970 American soldiers have died in Iraq.

Ikari

I'd be more inclined to accept your position if I had any faith in Gitmo being run in a prudent and judicious manner. However, it seems more like they rounded up a bunch of folk and chucked them in a big prison with no real way to meet their jailers and prove their own innocence. I'd also be slightly more sympathetic if we had an actual, Congress issued Declaration of War. But we don't, and I don't trust the government to do the right thing. So in light of that, I'd rather the base rights of the individual be recognized.

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WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

Iriemon

How do you know that those being held want to destroy our way of life?

Doesn't our way of life include the recognition of fundamental rights, including those that provide that no one is to be deprived of liberty except upon due process?

Hatuey

People. If you aren't an American citizen. You don't have rights and should not be allowed to challenge your imprisonment or any type of charges brought against you. Inalienable rights. What a load.

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Is Intolerant Because He Won't Let The Intolerant Run Other People's Lives.

Iriemon

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights,

The words upon which our nation was founded.

What a load.

mikhail

What i dont get is why for example if they where caught in Afganistan why not keep them there?

It could be possible to do a deal with cuba to get past this ruling or just release them in Cuba.

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Simon W. Moon

I dont think that they were all captured in Afghanistan

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- Napoleon Bonaparte to Berthier 11 Nov 1798 Napoleon on the Art of War

Hatuey

I find it funny that the difference between rights and no-rights lies within the pages of my American passport.

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Is Intolerant Because He Won't Let The Intolerant Run Other People's Lives.