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Old 05-24-08, 02:10 AM   #21 (permalink)
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no, i mean are they really ghetto? in my experience areas with tons and tons of bars are usually economically depressed.
Yes, I think you are right on this. The not so good neighborhoods on the outskirts of downtown have more bars. The suburbs not so much.
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are they...nice? there are sections in Philadelphia where there are 5 bars per 175 people...

They all open up at 7AM and are usually between check cashing places and gun stores...
And wig shops, and african hairbraiding. These are the 4 things I recall seeing interspersed on Philly's main street.
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Re: Study links drunk driving fatalities with smoking bans in bars

what exactly do you think is "Philly's mainstreet".

Broad? Walnut? Chestnut? Broad goes the entire length of the city. Walnut practically charges you 20 bucks for entry, it's so ludicrously expensive. Maybe Chestnut.
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A recent study at my school shows areas that ban smoking in bars have a higher risk of drunk driving problems.

"By comparing data from a variety of locations around the United States where laws requiring smoke-free bars exist with locations without bans, economists Scott Adams and Chad Cotti found a relative increase in fatalities caused by drunk driving following ban enactment."

But, there are also good things with smoking bans.

"Adams and Cotti have begun a new study to see if smoke-free bars are associated with evidence of a reduction in heart disease. Preliminary evidence strongly suggests it does."

Which is more important?

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Please cite evidence that the smoking ban *caused* drunk driving.

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I would dare speculate that the same predisposition for irrespocible behavior on the part of the people which lead to the smoking ban also lended itself to drunk driving.
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what exactly do you think is "Philly's mainstreet".

Broad? Walnut? Chestnut? Broad goes the entire length of the city. Walnut practically charges you 20 bucks for entry, it's so ludicrously expensive. Maybe Chestnut.
the one that runs through temple and ends when it runs into that massive (and as i remember actually quite nice) building, whatever it is.
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nothing "downtown" runs through Temple. That's like saying Broadway is New York's downtown...in the South Bronx.
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no, i mean are they really ghetto? in my experience areas with tons and tons of bars are usually economically depressed.
I think it has more to do with the fact that it's Wisconsin. It's the drunkard state.

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Re: Study links drunk driving fatalities with smoking bans in bars

i like three of those things...

is there any beer from Wisconsin that isn't, you know, The Beast...
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nothing "downtown" runs through Temple. That's like saying Broadway is New York's downtown...in the South Bronx.
I didn't say it was downtown, I said it was on (what I thought was) philly's main street. I dunno what it was, but it seemed pretty central to me.
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i like three of those things...

is there any beer from Wisconsin that isn't, you know, The Beast...
What is "The Beast"?
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