A Obama-Clinton Ticket anyone? - Page 2

Lerxst · 05-08-08, 07:07 PM

I think an Obama/Clinton ticket is a can't miss. It's the feel good hit of the summer. The Electoral College usually closely reflects the popular vote. It's a lock. I don't see Obama losing anyone because he takes Clinton on as a running mate, and I see many of those who supported Clinton but threatened to vote Republican if she lost the nomination sticking to the ticket.

Either way...Clinton, Richardson, Edwards...it doesn't matter. Obama wins in November.

the makeout hobo · 05-08-08, 07:14 PM

It would be a horrible idea. Think about all the negative things Clinton's said this election. Those would be played over and over again any time she stumped for Obama.

Redress · 05-08-08, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

Yes, but the point is that Obama and Clinton are 95% the same on the issues. As I said, if they are voting over issues, they will follow Obama. Otherwise it's the other three less desireable "issues".

Could you enhance that a bit for me, not quite sure what you mean by the bolded.

My nieghbor and one of my best friends is undecided between Obama and McCain. She hates the war in Iraq, so favors Obama, but agrees almost down the line with republicans on economic issues, so favors McCain. She is very liberal on social issues(including abortion), so favors Obama, but she is disturbed by Rev. Wright, "typical white person", the bitter comment, so that washes out. Now, she, like most in my hometown, favors Clinton, who does not have some of the negative luggage that Obama does, and besides, this area did really well under Bill Clinton, and having him in the white house as an unofficial advisor would be seen as a real plus. These people are more common than you think, are not going to fall into line without good reason, and are important to both candidates, Obama and McCain.

the makeout hobo · 05-08-08, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Redress

Could you enhance that a bit for me, not quite sure what you mean by the bolded.

My nieghbor and one of my best friends is undecided between Obama and McCain. She hates the war in Iraq, so favors Obama, but agrees almost down the line with republicans on economic issues, so favors McCain. She is very liberal on social issues(including abortion), so favors Obama, but she is disturbed by Rev. Wright, "typical white person", the bitter comment, so that washes out. Now, she, like most in my hometown, favors Clinton, who does not have some of the negative luggage that Obama does, and besides, this area did really well under Bill Clinton, and having him in the white house as an unofficial advisor would be seen as a real plus. These people are more common than you think, are not going to fall into line without good reason, and are important to both candidates, Obama and McCain.

Oh, Clinton has the baggage, we've just forgotten about it for a moment.

independent_thinker2002 · 05-08-08, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Redress

Could you enhance that a bit for me, not quite sure what you mean by the bolded.

My nieghbor and one of my best friends is undecided between Obama and McCain. She hates the war in Iraq, so favors Obama, but agrees almost down the line with republicans on economic issues, so favors McCain. She is very liberal on social issues(including abortion), so favors Obama, but she is disturbed by Rev. Wright, "typical white person", the bitter comment, so that washes out. Now, she, like most in my hometown, favors Clinton, who does not have some of the negative luggage that Obama does, and besides, this area did really well under Bill Clinton, and having him in the white house as an unofficial advisor would be seen as a real plus. These people are more common than you think, are not going to fall into line without good reason, and are important to both candidates, Obama and McCain.

The three "issues" I was talking about were his race, experience, and her gender.

Once McCain and Obama are juxtaposed the differences are stark. If your neighbor likes this economy a) have her head checked or b) she is wealthy and the economy isn't a big issue for her.

Who is to say that Obama won't have Bill's help?

Iriemon · 05-08-08, 07:43 PM

I think it would be a strong ticket, but I don't think Obama would want Clinton as a veep. She is too strong and well know and would be likely to undermine his authority.

Iriemon · 05-08-08, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by danarhea

It won't happen. My bet is on Bill Richardson, who can deliver New Mexico.

Too risky to put two minority guys on the same ticket. Someone like Joe Biden would be better. Nice traditional old white guy. I thought he was a good candidate, but overshadowed by Clintoin and Obama, and just lacks a little pizzazz, which is what you want in a veep.

He make the ticket more palatable.

Thales · 05-08-08, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by danarhea

It won't happen. My bet is on Bill Richardson, who can deliver New Mexico.

That's what I've thought for a while two. I think he brings the kind of extensive foreign policy experience to the table that Obama needs, as well as his potential appeal to Hispanics.

Thales · 05-08-08, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Too risky to put two minority guys on the same ticket. Someone like Joe Biden would be better. Nice traditional old white guy. I thought he was a good candidate, but overshadowed by Clintoin and Obama, and just lacks a little pizzazz, which is what you want in a veep.

He make the ticket more palatable.

Maybe two minorities is too risky - but if Obama goes for a traditional old white guy, I don't think it'll be Biden. He has foreign policy experience, but he also has a way of putting his foot in his mouth. And I think someone like Rendell (also being floated by some), with appeal in a swing state like Pennsylvania, would be a wiser choice.

independent_thinker2002 · 05-08-08, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Iriemon

Too risky to put two minority guys on the same ticket. Someone like Joe Biden would be better. Nice traditional old white guy. I thought he was a good candidate, but overshadowed by Clintoin and Obama, and just lacks a little pizzazz, which is what you want in a veep.

He make the ticket more palatable.

Biden is notorius for putting his foot in his mouth though. Obama doesn't need anyone focusing on Biden gaffes instead of his policy. Other than that, Biden's experience is a plus. He is "clean cut and articulate" though.