Blind Nationalism - Page 4

bhkad · 05-12-08, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

Wearing and saluting Chinese/Indian-made objects make conservatives feel better about the Chinese/Indians "stealing" their jobs. Obama made a mistake for not indulging their simplistic demands.

Frigging elitist is what he is! He thinks he's too good to pander to US patriots? He'll soon learn that he has to pander to ALL of the voters not just some of them.

Ikari · 05-12-08, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

What would you be willing to die for?

I swore that I'd protect my country and I'd give my life for my loved ones.

You?

Freedom and liberty.

dirtpoorchris · 05-12-08, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

I love America even though there are things about it that are infuriating or annoying. It doesn't get any better than this. And anyone who believes the grass is greener elsewhere is invited to post a thread telling us how much better they love Canada or France or Pakistan or wherever it is they'd prefer than here.

I would perfer to live in some American forest not paying a single one of my hours to go to the government for death. But they don't have internet there.

I wish there was a Vow of Peace path for taxes that insures no death will be caused by giving your money.

dirtpoorchris · 05-12-08, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

The trouble in speaking cryptically online is that people can infer whatever they will from your statements if you leave them the option to do so. Precision in communication is a good thing.

Well then lets clarify. And thank you by the way. I was listening to TooL. And the storm I was thinking of is an actual weather storm.

And on to your other reference. Ignore all the lies... and everything will be good! I like your logic. Wait for lies to play out and everything will be good.

ReligiousLeft · 05-13-08, 11:06 AM

My staying here is fueled by the theme of a certain democratic candidates campaign. Hope! I have hope that if people like me who realize the evil and disregard for life shown by the current American government, we can change America to the point that a catastrophe like the Bush Administration never happens again. By the way, that candidate is Barack Obama.

You ask if theres anything I would die for?

I would die for the cause of morality. If I was attacked by another person, I would die before attacking them. My love of my fellow man is such that I would sacrifice my life to avoid killing another. As a Christian and a Quaker, this course of action is my duty. Even if that person threatens to kill another, I would allow myself to die. Violence and murder are never right and only spread violence. I would die instead of commiting violence against anyone for anything or any reason.

dirtpoorchris · 05-13-08, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ReligiousLeft

My staying here is fueled by the theme of a certain democratic candidates campaign. Hope! I have hope that if people like me who realize the evil and disregard for life shown by the current American government, we can change America to the point that a catastrophe like the Bush Administration never happens again. By the way, that candidate is Barack Obama.

You ask if theres anything I would die for?

I would die for the cause of morality. If I was attacked by another person, I would die before attacking them. My love of my fellow man is such that I would sacrifice my life to avoid killing another. As a Christian and a Quaker, this course of action is my duty. Even if that person threatens to kill another, I would allow myself to die. Violence and murder are never right and only spread violence. I would die instead of commiting violence against anyone for anything or any reason.

Brother!!!!

dixon76710 · 05-13-08, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ReligiousLeft

My staying here is fueled by the theme of a certain democratic candidates campaign. Hope! I have hope that if people like me who realize the evil and disregard for life shown by the current American government, we can change America to the point that a catastrophe like the Bush Administration never happens again. By the way, that candidate is Barack Obama.

You ask if theres anything I would die for?

I would die for the cause of morality. If I was attacked by another person, I would die before attacking them. My love of my fellow man is such that I would sacrifice my life to avoid killing another. As a Christian and a Quaker, this course of action is my duty. Even if that person threatens to kill another, I would allow myself to die. Violence and murder are never right and only spread violence. I would die instead of commiting violence against anyone for anything or any reason.

Your views are why Christians always made much better dhimmis than the Jews. More willing to tolerate their "state of subjection" to their Islamic masters.

bhkad · 05-13-08, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris

I would perfer to live in some American forest not paying a single one of my hours to go to the government for death. But they don't have internet there.

I wish there was a Vow of Peace path for taxes that insures no death will be caused by giving your money.

And what would you do when someone was willing to use deadly force to take your belongings or force you to do as they wished, maybe even enslaving you?

bhkad · 05-13-08, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ikari

Freedom and liberty.

Would you be willing to die to help provide Freedom and liberty to others?

Would you be willing to die to help provide Freedom and liberty to others as you knew they might help, one day, to protect your Freedom and liberty??*

*-Today we are helping create Freedom and liberty for the Iraqis. Then, after we are gone they will be the ones who will stand strong against Iranian aggression in the region.

bhkad · 05-13-08, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ReligiousLeft

My staying here is fueled by the theme of a certain democratic candidates campaign. Hope! I have hope that if people like me who realize the evil and disregard for life shown by the current American government, we can change America to the point that a catastrophe like the Bush Administration never happens again. By the way, that candidate is Barack Obama.

You ask if theres anything I would die for?

I would die for the cause of morality. If I was attacked by another person, I would die before attacking them. My love of my fellow man is such that I would sacrifice my life to avoid killing another. As a Christian and a Quaker, this course of action is my duty. Even if that person threatens to kill another, I would allow myself to die. Violence and murder are never right and only spread violence. I would die instead of commiting violence against anyone for anything or any reason.

What about the lives of your fellow human beings who are being killed and enslaved? Your answer is surrender? How does that help your fellow man?
Or are all your fellow men to be directed like sheep by those others who are wolves?

Your discipline merely provides a way for the master race to exist. And so they will. And with your happy cooperation. It seems to me your argument is an example of the sheep vigorously defending the right of the wolf to eat him.

Consider the words of Ronald Reagan.

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Those who would trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state have told us that they have a utopian solution of peace without victory. They call their policy "accommodation." And they say if we only avoid any direct confrontation with the enemy, he will forget his evil ways and learn to love us. All who oppose them are indicted as warmongers. They say we offer simple answers to complex problems. Well, perhaps there is a simple answer--not an easy answer--but simple.

If you and I have the courage to tell our elected officials that we want our national policy based upon what we know in our hearts is morally right. We cannot buy our security, our freedom from the threat of the bomb by committing an immorality so great as saying to a billion now in slavery behind the Iron Curtain, "Give up your dreams of freedom because to save our own skin, we are willing to make a deal with your slave masters." Alexander Hamilton said, "A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one." Let's set the record straight. There is no argument over the choice between peace and war, but there is only one guaranteed way you can have peace--and you can have it in the next second--surrender.

Ronald Reagan-A Time for Choosing

And you not only have surrendered but you are trying to popularize the act. This is somewhat akin to the idea of recruiting suicide bombers, I'd guess.