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Old 09-08-05, 06:45 PM   #61
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Re: Why the far left is utterly out of their minds.

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Besides which, the Navy's mothball fleet is sitting in the middle of the bay, where it has been rusting for decades.
Just another example of Americans shunning there own history. Its a small wonder they have no understanding or toleraqnce for other countries. they dont even understand or respect there own.
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Just another example of Americans shunning there own history. Its a small wonder they have no understanding or toleraqnce for other countries. they dont even understand or respect there own.
Excuse me, my point was that there is already a large collection of discarded vessels in the bay, and so adding one more won't mess up the beautiful scenery any more than it already is.

Also, while they are rusting, they are hardly ignored. The U.S. Navy/Marine make us of the these vessels for on-ship combat training.

You assume a lot, seeing as how this was my first post here, and you have no basis to judge me by.
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Excuse me, my point was that there is already a large collection of discarded vessels in the bay, and so adding one more won't mess up the beautiful scenery any more than it already is.

Also, while they are rusting, they are hardly ignored. The U.S. Navy/Marine make us of the these vessels for on-ship combat training.

You assume a lot, seeing as how this was my first post here, and you have no basis to judge me by.
You assume I am speaking directly to you. Typical American Narcissim.


If the Ships there at the Naval facility are unkept complain about that. The Iowa would be a Memorial and would not be unkept.
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Re: Why the far left is utterly out of their minds.

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You assume I am speaking directly to you. Typical American Narcissim.


If the Ships there at the Naval facility are unkept complain about that. The Iowa would be a Memorial and would not be unkept.
You quoted my post, so at the very least I would call if fair to say you were speaking of me, if not to me. You have no basis to do this. I am a U.S. citizen, and if you have a problem us as a culture\society, then have at it. Just don't believe you're convincing anyone of anything by generalizing.

I also have no problem with the mothball fleet, or with having the Iowa as a monument. I'm surprised that the city even has the power to stop them. Since they apparently do, then it's their business. Certainly they don't NEED it, but most cities would bend over backwards to get it, becasue they need the tourism it will generate.
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Old 09-08-05, 07:29 PM   #65
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Re: Why the far left is utterly out of their minds.

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You quoted my post, so at the very least I would call if fair to say you were speaking of me, if not to me. You have no basis to do this. I am a U.S. citizen, and if you have a problem us as a culture\society, then have at it. Just don't believe you're convincing anyone of anything by generalizing.

I also have no problem with the mothball fleet, or with having the Iowa as a monument. I'm surprised that the city even has the power to stop them. Since they apparently do, then it's their business. Certainly they don't NEED it, but most cities would bend over backwards to get it, becasue they need the tourism it will generate.
The problem is as noted in the orginal article, the vote was done out of spite and not clear judgement on its benefits to the community.

Then the responces from people in many cases shun history.
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