Plege of Allegiance in Spanish sparks uproar - Page 4

Bodhisattva · 04-29-08, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

Lived in Oregon and California for 35 years...
Travelled everywhere from Michigan South to Texas and West...
From Mexico to Alaska annd the Yukon hiking and camping.

More importantly, when did you change this from speaking Spanish in school to allowing more immigrants?

Start another thread.

No response to this one... the little insult and all?

How does Mexico support its 110 million and the 20+ million in Mexico City?

aegyptos · 04-29-08, 05:50 AM

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The water comes from aqueducts from the mountains - there wasn't a shortage of it for the people that came before there certainly still is no shortage for those to come.

Telll that to the people of Colorado.

bub · 04-29-08, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

Just adding a bit of info to this. All one needs to do to notice how multi-lingual this country has been over it's history, all one has to do is go down to Louisiana. Baton Rouge? New Orleans? Terrebone(Good land) Parish? Boeuf River? Or California. San Antonio? San Miguel? What about Florida? San Agustin? Cayo Hueso(Key West)?

US states names are often Indian (Mississipi, Ohio...) Spanish (Nevada, California) or even French (Vermont, Maine...)

In Minnessota I think there is a village called Brussels

New York was called Nieuw Amsterdam!

It is amazing to look at a map of the USA, you directly see where people came from: Havre, Belgrade, Des Moines...

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jamesrage · 04-29-08, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

They should be able to... I agree.

Do you think that the Pledge should only be said in English though?

Yes.English our country's language.It doesn't matter who or what our states,cities,rivers and etc are named after.

jamesrage · 04-29-08, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

Just adding a bit of info to this. All one needs to do to notice how multi-lingual this country has been over it's history, all one has to do is go down to Louisiana. Baton Rouge? New Orleans? Terrebone(Good land) Parish? Boeuf River? Or California. San Antonio? San Miguel? What about Florida? San Agustin? Cayo Hueso(Key West)?

Thats like saying if someone can read the words taco,burrito,chalupa or tostada off taco bell menu then that makes them bilingual.Naming a place after something or keeping the names that previous settlers gave a place does not make a nation multilingual.

TacticalEvilDan · 04-29-08, 11:06 AM

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Yes.English our country's language.It doesn't matter who or what our states,cities,rivers and etc are named after.

English is not the official language of the United States, and it will never be no matter how badly you want it to be until it is stated clearly in our code of law.

That. Is. All.

bub · 04-29-08, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

English is not the official language of the United States, and it will never be no matter how badly you want it to be until it is stated clearly in our code of law.

That. Is. All.

On the other hand he is not totally wrong, English has de facto been US' lingua franca for decades, and every US citizen should be able to understand this language.

TacticalEvilDan · 04-29-08, 01:21 PM

I wholeheartedly agree that an understanding of English is an excellent thing to have if one wishes to live in the United States

Nobody has the right to expect anybody to speak English. Nobody has the right to expect anybody to speak any language here in the US.

bub · 04-29-08, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

I wholeheartedly agree that an understanding of English is an excellent thing to have if one wishes to live in the United States

Nobody has the right to expect anybody to speak English. Nobody has the right to expect anybody to speak any language here in the US.

Your argument is that the US has a multicultural history, isn't it?

There is the same problem in my country. Flanders wants people who live in "social houses" (houses rent at low prices, for poor people) to learn Dutch. Their argument is that if people want to be integrated in a community, they should speak the language of the locals.

And unlike the USA, you can't say that Flanders has historically been multicultural.

What do you think?

Arcana XV · 04-29-08, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

Fluently? That's pretty good.

I speak one fluently and a two decently and two more like crap.

You do know what I mean though...right? Inversion and all that good stuff. Syntax is different and that indicates a different manner in thinking. I actually forgot what it is called and I will be looking it up because of this.

5 of them fluently, yes. The other two I struggle a bit with.

Yeah, I know what you mean. Learning German especially opened up a brand new way of saying things. It's one of the two languages I still struggle with. Their grammar and syntax is murder to learn for someone who comes from a mostly latin heritage (French, Italian, Spanish).