Plege of Allegiance in Spanish sparks uproar - Page 3

WI Crippler · 04-28-08, 10:27 AM

As long as it goes both ways, and we require immigrants to have a basic grasp of English, I have no problems with this.

Bodhisattva · 04-28-08, 03:43 PM

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Third most populous country in the world. And yes, I've been out west. In fact, I live in the west. You probably don't live in the west or you would know there's no water out here, smart guy. So yes the country is at its carrying capacity. Let the hordes of aliens live in their own countries, is the right answer. Why would the government not want to stop the inflow of aliens? Because business wants cheap labor and government wants new tax payers. Neither are goals of mine.

Lived in Oregon and California for 35 years...
Travelled everywhere from Michigan South to Texas and West...
From Mexico to Alaska annd the Yukon hiking and camping.

More importantly, when did you change this from speaking Spanish in school to allowing more immigrants?

Start another thread.

Arcana XV · 04-28-08, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aegyptos

Let the hordes of aliens live in their own countries, is the right answer. Why would the government not want to stop the inflow of aliens? Because business wants cheap labor and government wants new tax payers. Neither are goals of mine.

Okay, fair enough. Everyone has their own dream of how their ideal little utopia should function.

But this has nothing to do with American kids reciting the Pledge once a year in a foreign language they've been learning. What do you think about that? You never said.

Bodhisattva · 04-28-08, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcana XV

Okay, fair enough. Everyone has their own dream of how their ideal little utopia should function.

But this has nothing to do with American kids reciting the Pledge once a year in a foreign language they've been learning. What do you think about that? You never said.

I think, personally, that more languages is better than fewer languages if for no other reason than it increases thinking skills by processing more information and allows varying thought processes as any person that speaks multiple languages knows.

Arcana XV · 04-28-08, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bodhisattva

I think, personally, that more languages is better than fewer languages if for no other reason than it increases thinking skills by processing more information and allows varying thought processes as any person that speaks multiple languages knows.

Wow. I must be a genius then with my 7 languages.

I don't know, a lot of the time, things are just a whole big multi-lingual mess in my head. It does help to appreciate the many different cultures out there, though. When you speak their language, it's dificult not to identify with them in some way. I've always said that learning a language is not only about vocabulary, but also very often about learning a brand new culture and way of life.

aegyptos · 04-28-08, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcana XV

Okay, fair enough. Everyone has their own dream of how their ideal little utopia should function.

But this has nothing to do with American kids reciting the Pledge once a year in a foreign language they've been learning. What do you think about that? You never said.

I think if they aren't citizens of this country they shouldn't be allowed to pledge at all and if they are citizens they should be saying it in English.

Bodhisattva · 04-28-08, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by aegyptos

I think if they aren't citizens of this country they shouldn't be allowed to pledge at all and if they are citizens they should be saying it in English.

They should be able to... I agree.

Do you think that the Pledge should only be said in English though?

Bodhisattva · 04-28-08, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcana XV

Wow. I must be a genius then with my 7 languages.

I don't know, a lot of the time, things are just a whole big multi-lingual mess in my head. It does help to appreciate the many different cultures out there, though. When you speak their language, it's dificult not to identify with them in some way. I've always said that learning a language is not only about vocabulary, but also very often about learning a brand new culture and way of life.

Fluently? That's pretty good.

I speak one fluently and a two decently and two more like crap.

You do know what I mean though...right? Inversion and all that good stuff. Syntax is different and that indicates a different manner in thinking. I actually forgot what it is called and I will be looking it up because of this.

jfuh · 04-29-08, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by aegyptos

I think if they aren't citizens of this country they shouldn't be allowed to pledge at all and if they are citizens they should be saying it in English.

I'm surprised you're not calling them to declare independence.

jfuh · 04-29-08, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by aegyptos

Third most populous country in the world. And yes, I've been out west. In fact, I live in the west. You probably don't live in the west or you would know there's no water out here, smart guy. So yes the country is at its carrying capacity. Let the hordes of aliens live in their own countries, is the right answer. Why would the government not want to stop the inflow of aliens? Because business wants cheap labor and government wants new tax payers. Neither are goals of mine.

The water comes from aqueducts from the mountains - there wasn't a shortage of it for the people that came before there certainly still is no shortage for those to come.