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Old 04-16-08, 10:23 AM   #1
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Carter Embraces Hamas Politician

There's a reason Bin Laden keeps asking Americans to vote Democrat.

Democrats are yet again meeting with terrorist leaders abroad, openly and deliberately thwarting U.S. anti-terror measures aimed at isolating groups like Hamas. Imagine this global jihad against America and Israel with President Obama leading our side, armed with a Congress run by his terror-apologist party.

Carter embraces Hamas politician - Israel-Palestinians - MSNBC.com

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Old 04-16-08, 12:55 PM   #2
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Re: Carter Embraces Hamas Politician

Oh yes, and while Carter was there aiding terrorists, he also laid down a wreath for another terrorist-Yasser Arafat.
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Old 04-16-08, 12:59 PM   #3
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Re: Carter Embraces Hamas Politician

I actually see this as a good thing. Carter had, debatably, the worst foreign policy of any president in the last 50 years. If people remember what a bantering, sniveling jack-in-the-box the Ayatollah Khomenei turned Carter into, they wouldn't touch his position with a tentpole. He's the Reverend Wright of the Democratic chickenhawks.
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Re: Carter Embraces Hamas Politician

Democrats, "yet again," ... uh, yeah.

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Congratulations.

You've managed to post links to two irrelevant topics. Now it's time to return to the debate about the way Democrats have aided terrorists this week...unless you're trying to argue that since Reagan supported anti-Communist movements, that somehow makes Republicans just as guilty of meeting with U.S. enemies to undermine U.S. anti-terror policies as Democrats...which I hope isn't the case.

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There's a reason Bin Laden keeps asking Americans to vote Democrat.
Is this supposed to be funny or do you have a cite for this? Last I checked OBL didn't see a difference (much like a lot of American voters).

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Democrats are yet again meeting with terrorist leaders abroad, openly and deliberately thwarting U.S. anti-terror measures aimed at isolating groups like Hamas.
Wow, you really think Carter has that much pull?
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Old 04-16-08, 01:33 PM   #7
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Is this supposed to be funny or do you have a cite for this? Last I checked OBL didn't see a difference (much like a lot of American voters).
"...bin Laden warned that any state in the U.S. that "white thug" Bush carries on Tuesday will in effect have chosen to fight bin Laden's al-Qaida.

'We will consider it an enemy to us,' says MEMRI's translation, while 'any state that will vote against Bush, it means that it chose to make peace with us and we will not characterize it as an enemy
...'"

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Wow, you really think Carter has that much pull?
Any high profile visit from the U.S. by political figures relieves the pressure we've placed on Hamas and blurs the message we're trying to send that mass-murdering civilians is not a legitimate means of addressing grievances. Democrats embolden terrorists, prolong their resistence, and get more people killed every time they do things like this.
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"...bin Laden warned that any state in the U.S. that "white thug" Bush carries on Tuesday will in effect have chosen to fight bin Laden's al-Qaida.

'We will consider it an enemy to us,' says MEMRI's translation, while 'any state that will vote against Bush, it means that it chose to make peace with us and we will not characterize it as an enemy
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I've researched this and that's not even a Bin Laden quote you've provided. It's an Islamist website offering their commentary on Bin Laden's words.
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Re: Carter Embraces Hamas Politician

"Since Syria and Hamas will have to be involved in a final peace agreement, they have to be involved in discussions that lead to final peace," Carter said Tuesday.

Sounds perfectly reasonable to me...

Carter has spent a large part of his life trying to bring peace to the Middle East, I don't see why he needs to stop now.

Talking to elected officials, trying to understand what they want, what they'd settle for, why they feel that way, etc, etc. That's pretty standard stuff if you want to bring about a peace deal.
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I've researched this and that's not even a Bin Laden quote you've provided. It's an Islamist website offering their commentary on Bin Laden's words.
Highlighted below is the rest of the sentence I left out. It says that the Middle East Media Research Institute, not an Islamist site at all, translated the statement, not offered their own commentary as you alleged, from Bin Laden's own mouth.

"According to a translation of the tape by the Middle East Media Research Institute, bin Laden warned that any state in the U.S. that 'white thug' Bush carries on Tuesday will in effect have chosen to fight bin Laden's al-Qaida.

'We will consider it an enemy to us,' says MEMRI's translation, while 'any state that will vote against Bush, it means that it chose to make peace with us and we will not characterize it as an enemy
.'"

MEMRI: The Middle East Media Research Institute

The tape in question tore into Bush's policies and warned that al qaida would attack if we continued such policies. He stopped short of saying, "Please vote for John Kerry," but it was obvious Kerry was the only one capable of delivering what Bin Laden was demanding, and thus was widely interpreted as a Bin Laden endorsement for Kerry.
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