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Old 04-02-08, 06:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Clinton Leads Obama, AND McCain in key matchups

Here's a poll for you: She is leading big points over McCain, not just Obama, and beating McCain is what democrats are all about, eh?

Clinton leads Obama, McCain in key matchups: poll - Yahoo! News


Wed Apr 2, 9:04 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

.."Clinton, a New York senator who would be the first female president, leads the Illinois senator 50 percent to 41 percent, the poll found. She also runs better against the likely Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, in Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio -- all important swing states in the general election.

In a general election matchup in Florida, McCain closely trails Clinton 42 percent to 44 percent but McCain leads Obama, who would be the first black president, 46 percent to 37 percent, according to the poll.

"The difference between Clinton and Obama in Florida is the white vote," said Peter Brown of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

In Ohio, Clinton has a 48 to 39 percent lead over McCain after months of too-close-to-call results, the poll found. In an Obama-McCain matchup, Obama gets 43 percent against 42 percent for McCain.

In Pennsylvania, Clinton tops McCain 48 to 40 percent and Obama leads the Arizona senator 43 percent to 39 percent.

Among Pennsylvania Democrats, Clinton leads 54 to 37 percent with women and ties Obama with men at 46 percent support.

The primary vote between Clinton and Obama splits sharply along racial lines.

Clinton leads 59 to 34 percent among white Pennsylvania likely primary voters while Obama leads 73 to 11 percent among black Democrats, the poll found.
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Re: Clinton Leads Obama, AND McCain in key matchups

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Here's a poll for you: She is leading big points over McCain, not just Obama, and beating McCain is what democrats are all about, eh?

Clinton leads Obama, McCain in key matchups: poll - Yahoo! News


Wed Apr 2, 9:04 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

.."Clinton, a New York senator who would be the first female president, leads the Illinois senator 50 percent to 41 percent, the poll found. She also runs better against the likely Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, in Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio -- all important swing states in the general election.

In a general election matchup in Florida, McCain closely trails Clinton 42 percent to 44 percent but McCain leads Obama, who would be the first black president, 46 percent to 37 percent, according to the poll.

"The difference between Clinton and Obama in Florida is the white vote," said Peter Brown of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

In Ohio, Clinton has a 48 to 39 percent lead over McCain after months of too-close-to-call results, the poll found. In an Obama-McCain matchup, Obama gets 43 percent against 42 percent for McCain.

In Pennsylvania, Clinton tops McCain 48 to 40 percent and Obama leads the Arizona senator 43 percent to 39 percent.

Among Pennsylvania Democrats, Clinton leads 54 to 37 percent with women and ties Obama with men at 46 percent support.

The primary vote between Clinton and Obama splits sharply along racial lines.

Clinton leads 59 to 34 percent among white Pennsylvania likely primary voters while Obama leads 73 to 11 percent among black Democrats, the poll found.
McCain is only the LIKELY Republican nominee? And Florida can't really be counted, as Obama did not campain there. Also, this source fails to take into account that people will change their views when one democrat is declared the nominee.
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Old 04-02-08, 07:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Clinton Leads Obama, AND McCain in key matchups

Meh..Obama, hillary, McCain, they are all the same. What the fuss is all about is a mystery to me. Its been decided, the democrats won.
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Meh..Obama, hillary, McCain, they are all the same. What the fuss is all about is a mystery to me. Its been decided, the democrats won.
Not true! Nader for president! Oh wait, never mind. I agree.
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Here's a poll for you: She is leading big points over McCain, not just Obama, and beating McCain is what democrats are all about, eh?

Clinton leads Obama, McCain in key matchups: poll - Yahoo! News


Wed Apr 2, 9:04 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

.."Clinton, a New York senator who would be the first female president, leads the Illinois senator 50 percent to 41 percent, the poll found. She also runs better against the likely Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, in Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio -- all important swing states in the general election.

In a general election matchup in Florida, McCain closely trails Clinton 42 percent to 44 percent but McCain leads Obama, who would be the first black president, 46 percent to 37 percent, according to the poll.

"The difference between Clinton and Obama in Florida is the white vote," said Peter Brown of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

In Ohio, Clinton has a 48 to 39 percent lead over McCain after months of too-close-to-call results, the poll found. In an Obama-McCain matchup, Obama gets 43 percent against 42 percent for McCain.

In Pennsylvania, Clinton tops McCain 48 to 40 percent and Obama leads the Arizona senator 43 percent to 39 percent.

Among Pennsylvania Democrats, Clinton leads 54 to 37 percent with women and ties Obama with men at 46 percent support.

The primary vote between Clinton and Obama splits sharply along racial lines.

Clinton leads 59 to 34 percent among white Pennsylvania likely primary voters while Obama leads 73 to 11 percent among black Democrats, the poll found.
This is only in one single state, Pennsylvania. Nationally, Obama leads Hillary in the polls.
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This is only in one single state, Pennsylvania. Nationally, Obama leads Hillary in the polls.
Plus, Hillary's lead is shrinking, and she has to win BIG (really big) in PA to even stay in the the race for Democratic nominee. And she obviously can't lead Obama in many "key matchups", seeing since she is losing to Obama in delegates and popular votes.
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Re: Clinton Leads Obama, AND McCain in key matchups

Is there really any point in giving stats for "key matchups" or "significant states" or "large states" or "swing states" and so on? I mean there's about a thousand definitions for a thousand different terms that you can pick and choose to make any candidate look like a winner or an obvious choice.

What actually matters is the real election, not any specific "spin" terms.
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Re: Clinton Leads Obama, AND McCain in key matchups

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Here's a poll for you: She is leading big points over McCain, not just Obama, and beating McCain is what democrats are all about, eh?

Clinton leads Obama, McCain in key matchups: poll - Yahoo! News


Wed Apr 2, 9:04 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

.."Clinton, a New York senator who would be the first female president, leads the Illinois senator 50 percent to 41 percent, the poll found. She also runs better against the likely Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, in Pennsylvania, Florida and Ohio -- all important swing states in the general election.

In a general election matchup in Florida, McCain closely trails Clinton 42 percent to 44 percent but McCain leads Obama, who would be the first black president, 46 percent to 37 percent, according to the poll.

"The difference between Clinton and Obama in Florida is the white vote," said Peter Brown of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

In Ohio, Clinton has a 48 to 39 percent lead over McCain after months of too-close-to-call results, the poll found. In an Obama-McCain matchup, Obama gets 43 percent against 42 percent for McCain.

In Pennsylvania, Clinton tops McCain 48 to 40 percent and Obama leads the Arizona senator 43 percent to 39 percent.

Among Pennsylvania Democrats, Clinton leads 54 to 37 percent with women and ties Obama with men at 46 percent support.

The primary vote between Clinton and Obama splits sharply along racial lines.

Clinton leads 59 to 34 percent among white Pennsylvania likely primary voters while Obama leads 73 to 11 percent among black Democrats, the poll found.
So azura, how are you going to vote in the general if it comes down to Obama and McCain?
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Is there really any point in giving stats for "key matchups" or "significant states" or "large states" or "swing states" and so on? I mean there's about a thousand definitions for a thousand different terms that you can pick and choose to make any candidate look like a winner or an obvious choice.

What actually matters is the real election, not any specific "spin" terms.
One stat DOES matter. Among Republicans who registered to be Democrats for a day, Hillary has an insurmountable lead. LOL. Makes me wonder what those Republicans might be afraid of.
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One stat DOES matter. Among Republicans who registered to be Democrats for a day, Hillary has an insurmountable lead. LOL. Makes me wonder what those Republicans might be afraid of.
Once one party declares a nominee, the other party should only allow registered members to vote in the primaries. People like these one-day democrats skew the numbers and are basically keeping Clinton in the race.
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