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Old 03-29-08, 10:30 AM   #61 (permalink)
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It doesent really matter what women think by the time shes seen it its already to late.
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Old 03-29-08, 11:50 AM   #62 (permalink)
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From the Department of State on female circumcision :

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Yeah...we all know how many "health" reasons are related to it.
Umm.. where did I mention any of those practices? I simply said we should circumsize women in the same manner that we circumsize men and for the same reasons. You do realize, don't you, that the clitoris is like a little mini penis? And the clitoral hood is much like the foreskin of a penis? You were aware, right? Well, the same type of cleaning is required and the same types of infections can result with inproper cleaning. Those are your health reasons... the same as the mens. Because it's just too hard to clean them and they *might* get an infection.

Why do you bring up the extreme types of mutliation you did? Has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about.
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Old 03-29-08, 01:41 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Umm.. where did I mention any of those practices? I simply said we should circumsize women in the same manner that we circumsize men and for the same reasons. You do realize, don't you, that the clitoris is like a little mini penis? And the clitoral hood is much like the foreskin of a penis? You were aware, right? Well, the same type of cleaning is required and the same types of infections can result with inproper cleaning. Those are your health reasons... the same as the mens. Because it's just too hard to clean them and they *might* get an infection.

Why do you bring up the extreme types of mutliation you did? Has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about.
Did you not read woman? The health related reasons for female circumcision(including the removal of the clitoral hood) are unsupported by DOCTORS. This means what you posted is pish-posh. As opposed to male circumcision, there are no health related reasons for the removal/splitting of the clitoral hood(Type I of female circumcision). However I see you failed to read this in the links I provided :

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Type I is the excision (removal) of the clitoral hood with or without removal of all or part of the clitoris.
It's good to see you realize it though.
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Old 03-29-08, 02:08 PM   #64 (permalink)
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It doesent really matter what women think by the time shes seen it its already to late.
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Well I had my son circumsized simply because I am. No malice or evil intent on my part.

All the penis fashionistas can thank me later.
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Did you not read woman? The health related reasons for female circumcision(including the removal of the clitoral hood) are unsupported by DOCTORS. This means what you posted is pish-posh. As opposed to male circumcision, there are no health related reasons for the removal/splitting of the clitoral hood(Type I of female circumcision). However I see you failed to read this in the links I provided :

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It's good to see you realize it though.
Well, I guess that just means that the doctors don't consider infections and discomfort in women to be as important as it is to men. Both can get infections for the exact same reasons in extremely similar ways and places. Yet the docs only think the penis is important. Typical.
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If they didn't find any health reasons to support female circumcision then I have to assume they didn't find any evidence of a risk of infection, not that they didn't care about it.
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If they didn't find any health reasons to support female circumcision then I have to assume they didn't find any evidence of a risk of infection, not that they didn't care about it.
That's weird, cause women get infections and irritation there quite a bit.
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Umm.. where did I mention any of those practices? I simply said we should circumsize women in the same manner that we circumsize men and for the same reasons. You do realize, don't you, that the clitoris is like a little mini penis? And the clitoral hood is much like the foreskin of a penis? You were aware, right? Well, the same type of cleaning is required and the same types of infections can result with inproper cleaning. Those are your health reasons... the same as the mens. Because it's just too hard to clean them and they *might* get an infection.
I see your point; it's valid to an extent, but then not really, because men have a hole in their penis whereas women don't have one in their clit, the female urethra being located elsewhere, lower.
Men constantly have pee dribbles (they don't wipe, you know) and other icky stuff like pre-cum oozing out of their penises.
That would make for an even grosser and less hygienic situation than the clit/ clit hood situation.

But other than that, yes, the organs are pretty similar; fetuses all start out with the same little bump, and it either becomes a clit or a penis.
A doctor would be a lying hypocrit if he/ she seriously recommended male circumcision for health and hygiene reasons only, but not female circumcision for the same reasons.
If a doctor is honest, he or she will admit that the reasons for male circumcision in America are not exclusively health and hygiene related, but also cultural and cosmetic and social, and therefore they cannot in good conscience recommend female circumcision or clit-hood removal for infant girls, although it would have the same minor-to-negligible health benefits as male circumcision does.
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What is the percentage of American men circumcised?

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