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Old 03-26-08, 06:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A BLACK REPORTER'S ASSESSMENT OF OBAMA....Ken Blackwell - Columnist for the New York Sun

It's an amazing time to be alive in America. We're in a year
of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate;
the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the
first front running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America
will be a first.

We won't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we
judge every candidate by where they stand. We won't arrive where we
should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender.

Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic
field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about
his policies and his politics.


The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until
August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the
frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him.

Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's the
next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.

Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the
entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs.
Clinton.

Never in my life have I seen a presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed
from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda, and he lost.

Yet, Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he's not behind in the polls. Why?
Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant.

Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the
United States of America. But let's look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial 'beauty.'

Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invadingPakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust;
and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.

Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on "the rich." How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise taxes.Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.

Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, "All praise and glory to God!" but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have "hijacked" Christianity. He ispro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial
cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In Illinois, herefused to vote against a statewide ban on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values.

The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don't start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of "bringingAmerica together" means saying that those who disagree with his agenda forAmerica are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.

But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent a speaker he is and - yes - they're tal king about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama's radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.

It's time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let's first make sure we elect the person whois qualified to be our president in a nuclear age during a global civilizational war.
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Re: A different viewpoint on Obama.

This is a "different viewpoint"? This is exactly the same conservative talking point that you and others have been parroting for months.

You know, when I read the first paragraph of this, I confess that I thought that maybe Ken Blackwell actually had a little bit of class in him. I thought that maybe he was going to talk about how Obama should not be judged on his race, in a nonpartisan way. But of course, I was wrong. This is nothing more than a disgusting partisan rant, and it reminded me of the sleazy way that Ken Blackwell tried to smear Ted Strickland by associating him with NAMBLA.

There's a reason that idiots like Blackwell don't get elected in moderate states like Ohio. But I doubt he would have had much better luck in a Republican-heavy state.
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A BLACK REPORTER'S ASSESSMENT OF OBAMA....Ken Blackwell - Columnist for the New York Sun

It's an amazing time to be alive in America. We're in a year
of firsts in this presidential election: the first viable woman candidate;
the first viable African-American candidate; and, a candidate who is the
first front running freedom fighter over 70. The next president of America
will be a first.

We won't truly be in an election of firsts, however, until we
judge every candidate by where they stand. We won't arrive where we
should be until we no longer talk about skin color or gender.

Now that Barack Obama steps to the front of the Democratic
field, we need to stop talking about his race, and start talking about
his policies and his politics.


The reality is this: Though the Democrats will not have a nominee until
August, unless Hillary Clinton drops out, Mr. Obama is now the
frontrunner, and its time America takes a closer and deeper look at him.

Some pundits are calling him the next John F. Kennedy. He's not. He's the
next George McGovern. And it's time people learned the facts.

Because the truth is that Mr. Obama is the single most liberal senator in the
entire U.S. Senate. He is more liberal than Ted Kennedy, Bernie Sanders, or Mrs.
Clinton.

Never in my life have I seen a presidential frontrunner whose rhetoric is so far removed
from his record. Walter Mondale promised to raise our taxes, and he lost. George McGovern promised military weakness, and he lost. Michael Dukakis promised a liberal domestic agenda, and he lost.

Yet, Mr. Obama is promising all those things, and he's not behind in the polls. Why?
Because the press has dealt with him as if he were in a beauty pageant.

Mr. Obama talks about getting past party, getting past red and blue, to lead the
United States of America. But let's look at the more defined strokes of who he is underneath this superficial 'beauty.'

Start with national security, since the president's most important duties are as commander-in-chief. Over the summer, Mr. Obama talked about invadingPakistan, a nation armed with nuclear weapons; meeting without preconditions with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who vows to destroy Israel and create another Holocaust;
and Kim Jong II, who is murdering and starving his people, but emphasized that the nuclear option was off the table against terrorists - something no president has ever taken off the table since we created nuclear weapons in the 1940s. Even Democrats who have worked in national security condemned all of those remarks. Mr. Obama is a foreign-policy novice who would put our national security at risk.

Next, consider economic policy. For all its faults, our health care system is the strongest in the world. And free trade agreements, created by Bill Clinton as well as President Bush, have made more goods more affordable so that even people of modest means can live a life that no one imagined a generation ago. Yet Mr. Obama promises to raise taxes on "the rich." How to fix Social Security? Raise taxes. How to fix Medicare? Raise taxes.Prescription drugs? Raise taxes. Free college? Raise taxes. Socialize medicine? Raise taxes. His solution to everything is to have government take it over. Big Brother on steroids, funded by your paycheck.

Finally, look at the social issues. Mr. Obama had the audacity to open a stadium rally by saying, "All praise and glory to God!" but says that Christian leaders speaking for life and marriage have "hijacked" Christianity. He ispro-partial birth abortion, and promises to appoint Supreme Court justices who will rule any restriction on it unconstitutional. He espouses the abortion views of Margaret Sanger, one of the early advocates of racial
cleansing. His spiritual leaders endorse homosexual marriage, and he is moving in that direction. In Illinois, herefused to vote against a statewide ban on all handguns in the state. These are radical left, Hollywood, and San Francisco values, not Middle America values.

The real Mr. Obama is an easy target for the general election. Mrs. Clinton is a far tougher opponent. But Mr. Obama could win if people don't start looking behind his veneer and flowery speeches. His vision of "bringingAmerica together" means saying that those who disagree with his agenda forAmerica are hijackers or warmongers. Uniting the country means adopting his liberal agenda and abandoning any conflicting beliefs.

But right now everyone is talking about how eloquent a speaker he is and - yes - they're tal king about his race. Those should never be the factors on which we base our choice for president. Mr. Obama's radical agenda sets him far outside the American mainstream, to the left of Mrs. Clinton.

It's time to talk about the real Barack Obama. In an election of firsts, let's first make sure we elect the person whois qualified to be our president in a nuclear age during a global civilizational war.
I love that neo-conservatives think of Ken Blackwell as their wild card because he uses the same types of talking points as they do and he's black. So they use him in many issues, especially where race is concerned because they are essentially saying, "See?! He's black and he believes the same stuff we do, so therefore he MUST be right!" Perhaps you should post an unbiased viewpoint from someone who isn't a constant contributor to Fox News. If race truly has nothing to do with this, why is Ken Blackwell used as a wild card in this manner?
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I love that neo-conservatives think of Ken Blackwell as their wild card because he uses the same types of talking points as they do and he's black. So they use him in many issues, especially where race is concerned because they are essentially saying, "See?! He's black and he believes the same stuff we do, so therefore he MUST be right!" Perhaps you should post an unbiased viewpoint from someone who isn't a constant contributor to Fox News. If race truly has nothing to do with this, why is Ken Blackwell used as a wild card in this manner?

Lets face it to you lefties a black man who is a Conservative is and Uncle Tom...........
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Lets face it to you lefties a black man who is a Conservative is and Uncle Tom...........
Um...no. There are plenty of black conservatives out there. I personally think it's disgusting that people use this particular guy in the way they do, especially in this issue where they claim that race isn't an issue. The fact that you have to utilize a black man who happens to be a conservative automatically makes it about race. Why should his views on Obama hold more water simply because he's black?
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Um...no. There are plenty of black conservatives out there. I personally think it's disgusting that people use this particular guy in the way they do, especially in this issue where they claim that race isn't an issue. The fact that you have to utilize a black man who happens to be a conservative automatically makes it about race. Why should his views on Obama hold more water simply because he's black?

He is just stating the facts and because your a liberal you don't like that......
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He is just stating the facts and because your a liberal you don't like that......
Since when have political viewpoints been facts? Your arrogance is really astounding.
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Hijacked Christianity? What hypocrisy.
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I love that neo-conservatives think of Ken Blackwell as their wild card because he uses the same types of talking points as they do and he's black. So they use him in many issues, especially where race is concerned because they are essentially saying, "See?! He's black and he believes the same stuff we do, so therefore he MUST be right!" Perhaps you should post an unbiased viewpoint from someone who isn't a constant contributor to Fox News. If race truly has nothing to do with this, why is Ken Blackwell used as a wild card in this manner?
Both sides use that tactic.
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Both sides use that tactic.
The difference is that the overwhelming majority of blacks vote Democrat. It's kind of like saying that because one Tibetan likes being oppressed by China the rest of them do. If I took a house negro from the 1830s and asked him if he enjoyed being a slave and he said yes would it mean that the field negroes like being slaves? Obviously not. Men and women lie. Numbers don't. Ken Blackwell is a joke doing the Republican dirty work.
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