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Old 03-18-08, 12:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Bravo, Infinite Chaos. I didn't know about this photo but it sums up everything I think about the government of the PRC.....phony as a three dollar bill.
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Who is being killed? Tibetans or Chineses?

You talk about them beating "innocent bystanders"...you mean those who occupy their country! The Chineses do not want Tibet to be free, so Tibetans have to do a revolution!
And there is the bandwagoning, Tibet is Chinese hence it is a misrepresentation to claim some variation in the first place. Ethnic Han are the ones being beaten and yes they are innocent.
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The chinese are pretty good at mis-representing facts themselves...

Below from an advertising campaign for a new super train route into Tibet - the image is stored in various places but I chose the Chinese embassies servers in London (until they delete this image) for the source..



and here.. is the story of how the truth came out - EastSouthWestNorth: Top 10 News Photo Of The Year Was Faked
Question: so what?? An ad photo made to look better than reality; certainly we've never heard of that ever before. Unless you are insinuating that there has been a dishonest presentation of the photos I've shown I really don't understand the purpose of this post.
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The chinese are pretty good at mis-representing facts themselves...

Below from an advertising campaign for a new super train route into Tibet - the image is stored in various places but I chose the Chinese embassies servers in London (until they delete this image) for the source..



and here.. is the story of how the truth came out - EastSouthWestNorth: Top 10 News Photo Of The Year Was Faked
Communists have always used to do that.

Like all the pictures where Trotsky has "disappeared"
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Question: so what?? An ad photo made to look better than reality; certainly we've never heard of that ever before. Unless you are insinuating that there has been a dishonest presentation of the photos I've shown I really don't understand the purpose of this post.
If I wanted to say your images are a dishonest representation I would have said so. I think I am honest enough in that regard...

As for the purpose of the post, I leave that to what I originally said when I posted it - that was clear enough first time round. Any further attempt to "explain" myself would just muddy the water.
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--snip-- However this time it is the Tibetan thugs that are releasing propaganda.
They have been responsible for the not only beating up non-ethnic Tibetans but also for the scorching and destruction of schools, banks, markets, houses, and even hospitals (peaceful protests my arse)--snip-- However the ethnic Tibetans than began a series of violent acts including Molotov cocktails and so on in injuring innocent bystanders. These violent protests are not limited to only the autonomous region of Tibet but also to throughout China where various other Tibetans have moved for job opportunities picking up and beating random innocent bystanders --snip--
You know, reading this - I get the image of countless millions of Chinese in their tanks cowed and suppressed wherever they go by Tibetan thugs. It's just the way you've written it jfuh - the most populous Nation on earth cowed and beaten into submission within its own borders by thug Tibetans.

I too have watched BBc reports and Tibetan are shown attacking chinese passersby within Tibet, the propaganda is being warred on both sides but I certainly don't see events as one-sided (Tibet beating up the Chinese) in the same way you seem to.
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If something is misrepresented, it's in China.

If the Chineses were so good and had nothing to hide, if the Tibetans were so mad, then why would the Chinese regime use censorship? Why do they try to block youtube? Why do they try to control google? Why do they ban foreign press?
well for starters as has been shown already foreign media has a tendancy to intentionally misrepresent the facts to better resonate with readership; I wouldn't want such misrepresentation either. Granted that deffinetely takes out the objectivity from anything produced on the matter yet from the bandwagoning I have seen here as long as china is communist it seems it won't matter what they do everything will still be viewed negatively regardless of because it resonates.

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It's good to read your opinion because it's quite unusual, but in your posts it sometimes sounded as if it was Tibet's fault if they were occupied by an authoritarian regime where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are unknown.
again I can't understand this, when gb colonized Tibet by annexation they enslaved the Tibetans, then when the Chinese nationalists ruled the dalai lama propped himself up as a demigod living in luxury while normal people were forced to live in utter poverty and authoritarian rule without justice. The prc took over and ruled with an iorn fist; undesireable true but the far lesser of the former evils. Sanitation, social justice, obligate school education regardless of sex or social status, modern medicine ECT. But ironically the west band wagons with the lama without regard to just what the lama represents or what government he advocate, simply because he seems like the weak being bullied by a dictorial regime which opposes religious freedom all which resonate with western mind set from the cold war era. But mostly only half truth. In particular with religious freedom - I'll discuss this more later
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--snip-- when gb colonized Tibet by annexation they enslaved the Tibetans, then when the Chinese nationalists ruled the dalai lama propped himself up as a demigod --snip--
Aren't you forgetting the period in between GB leaving Tibet and Mao Zedong telling Tibet of his plans of "liberation" in 1949?

In your version of history - Tibet has never been an independant Nation?
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Aren't you forgetting the period in between GB leaving Tibet and Mao Zedong telling Tibet of his plans of "liberation" in 1949?

In your version of history - Tibet has never been an independant Nation?
It's not my version, it's historical fact. A nation called the Republic of China (aka Taiwan).

Yes Tibet is still included in there.
To further on what you have presented here however, who did GB colonize Tibet from?

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If I wanted to say your images are a dishonest representation I would have said so. I think I am honest enough in that regard...

As for the purpose of the post, I leave that to what I originally said when I posted it - that was clear enough first time round. Any further attempt to "explain" myself would just muddy the water.
I don't make arguments against unless I clearly understand what the poster is presenting. I am uncertain as to the intent of that ad photo in relation to the current events.
Hence as per the honesty portion, are you insinuating that the images I've posted are forged?
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