| Archives Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas; Originally Posted by aegyptos
I'd like to see these protests grow into a full fledged revolt that spreads all ... |
03-17-08, 09:55 PM
|
#11 (permalink)
| | Sage
Join Date: Dec 2005 Last Online: Today 05:27 AM Location: Pacific Rim
Posts: 15,811
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 1,117 Times in 844 Posts
Lean: Slightly Liberal Gender:  Awards:
Current Mood: | Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by aegyptos I'd like to see these protests grow into a full fledged revolt that spreads all over western China. What I like to see come out of it is the down fall and destruction of the PRC. | You won't find another person here that would like nothing more than to see the collapse of the PRC. However through false misrepresentation and emotional sentiment is not the way.
Again as I've said, the tibetans WANT this to get as violent and as bloody as possible, but most importantly they WANT the western News media to focus their camera lenses on this. Fracking disgusting. |
| |
03-17-08, 10:00 PM
|
#12 (permalink)
| | User
Join Date: Mar 2008 Last Online: 03-18-08 08:39 PM
Posts: 15
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Lean: Independent Gender: 
Current Mood: | Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by jfuh Again as I've said, the tibetans WANT this to get as violent and as bloody as possible, but most importantly they WANT the western News media to focus their camera lenses on this. Fracking disgusting. | Maybe that's the only way to do it though. It's not like they can put up fliers around town with big red letters saying RESISTANCE MEETING AT MY PLACE. FREE CHIPS AND DIP. I mean they don't even have a free media to get word around. My best wishes to there cause and i hope they succeede.
__________________ we need to think as a people |
| |
03-17-08, 10:01 PM
|
#13 (permalink)
| | Banned
Join Date: Dec 2007 Last Online: 11-13-08 07:43 PM
Posts: 1,785
Thanks: 115
Thanked 317 Times in 236 Posts
Awards: | Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by jfuh You won't find another person here that would like nothing more than to see the collapse of the PRC. | You might be surprised. Quote: |
However through false misrepresentation and emotional sentiment is not the way.
| I haven't any evidence that these events are being misrepresented. Quote: |
Again as I've said, the tibetans WANT this to get as violent and as bloody as possible, but most importantly they WANT the western News media to focus their camera lenses on this. Fracking disgusting.
| Why wouldn't they? They are fighting for their liberty from a foreign oppressor. I want them to win. You sound like you're in the tank for the PRC. |
| |
03-18-08, 02:37 AM
|
#14 (permalink)
| | Sage
Join Date: Dec 2005 Last Online: Today 05:27 AM Location: Pacific Rim
Posts: 15,811
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 1,117 Times in 844 Posts
Lean: Slightly Liberal Gender:  Awards:
Current Mood: | Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by Visional Youth Maybe that's the only way to do it though. It's not like they can put up fliers around town with big red letters saying RESISTANCE MEETING AT MY PLACE. FREE CHIPS AND DIP. I mean they don't even have a free media to get word around. My best wishes to there cause and i hope they succeede. | That does not justify the spillage of innocent blood. |
| |
03-18-08, 02:46 AM
|
#15 (permalink)
| | Sage
Join Date: Dec 2005 Last Online: Today 05:27 AM Location: Pacific Rim
Posts: 15,811
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 1,117 Times in 844 Posts
Lean: Slightly Liberal Gender:  Awards:
Current Mood: | Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by aegyptos You might be surprised. | Yes I would be surprised. Quote: |
Originally Posted by aegyptos I haven't any evidence that these events are being misrepresented. | Ok, here you go then, the exact same image that has been on several western media outlets including the NY Times.
On the Left is what has been posted. It looks like it's the Chinese military that was rolling through and causing the destruction and these two are fleeing.
When we look at the entire image what we see are the true aggressors in this situation.
Another situation 
Another image that was seen on the BBC and the Nytimes and various other western media outlets. But do we see just what this barricade is put up to stop? 
This is what it was put up against.
Now tell me this is not mis-representation? Why would our media put up such images that may mis-represent - to fit in with western belief of who they (communist Chinese) are so as to resonate with the sentiments against them. Remember, everything they do is evil, what we do is good. Quote: |
Originally Posted by aegyptos Why wouldn't they? They are fighting for their liberty from a foreign oppressor. I want them to win. You sound like you're in the tank for the PRC. | Foreign oppressor? There's the band wagoning right there. Tibet is a part of Chinese territory and has been so for the last 700 years. These are not some freedom fighters, they are nothing but thugs. I have absolutely no sympathy for such thugs. |
| |
03-18-08, 03:28 AM
|
#16 (permalink)
| | Sage
Join Date: Dec 2005 Last Online: Today 05:27 AM Location: Pacific Rim
Posts: 15,811
Thanks: 3,475
Thanked 1,117 Times in 844 Posts
Lean: Slightly Liberal Gender:  Awards:
Current Mood: | Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by aegyptos I haven't any evidence that these events are being misrepresented. | Another misrepresentation is how the news organizations represent on one side Tibetan and on the otherside Chinese. That in itself is a mis-representation because both sides are Chinese. Tibetan is an ethnic group as is the Han the other ethnic group which is the commonly referenced Chinese. Quote: |
Originally Posted by aegyptos You sound like you're in the tank for the PRC. | That I don't get on the band wagon makes me in favor of the PRC?? |
| |
03-18-08, 03:59 AM
|
#17 (permalink)
| | R.I.P. Léo
Join Date: Oct 2006 Last Online: Today 12:11 PM Location: Here
Posts: 4,164
Thanks: 1,692
Thanked 549 Times in 415 Posts
Current Mood: | Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by jfuh That does not justify the spillage of innocent blood. | Who is being killed? Tibetans or Chineses?
You talk about them beating "innocent bystanders"...you mean those who occupy their country! The Chineses do not want Tibet to be free, so Tibetans have to do a revolution!
__________________ ===|:-) |
| |
03-18-08, 10:53 AM
|
#18 (permalink)
| | R.I.P. Léo
Join Date: Oct 2006 Last Online: Today 12:11 PM Location: Here
Posts: 4,164
Thanks: 1,692
Thanked 549 Times in 415 Posts
Current Mood: | Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by jfuh Another misrepresentation is how the news organizations represent on one side Tibetan and on the otherside Chinese. That in itself is a mis-representation because both sides are Chinese. Tibetan is an ethnic group as is the Han the other ethnic group which is the commonly referenced Chinese.
That I don't get on the band wagon makes me in favor of the PRC?? | If something is misrepresented, it's in China.
If the Chineses were so good and had nothing to hide, if the Tibetans were so mad, then why would the Chinese regime use censorship? Why do they try to block youtube? Why do they try to control google? Why do they ban foreign press?
It's good to read your opinion because it's quite unusual, but in your posts it sometimes sounded as if it was Tibet's fault if they were occupied by an authoritarian regime where freedom of speech and freedom of religion are unknown. |
| |
03-18-08, 11:04 AM
|
#19 (permalink)
| | R.I.P. Léo
Join Date: Oct 2006 Last Online: Today 12:11 PM Location: Here
Posts: 4,164
Thanks: 1,692
Thanked 549 Times in 415 Posts
Current Mood: | Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by jfuh
This is what it was put up against.
Now tell me this is not mis-representation? Why would our media put up such images that may mis-represent - to fit in with western belief of who they (communist Chinese) are so as to resonate with the sentiments against them. Remember, everything they do is evil, what we do is good. | You are right, these pictures misrepresent reality. But so are all the pictures. The fact that you choose an image also means that you don't show another image. Here, as you said, the aim is to show Chinese soldiers and try to make believe that Tibetans are thugs.
You are right, but don't exagerate. Chinese press does much worse. There is an official version and nobody can contest it. At least here you can freely talk about those events. Not in Communist China. Quote: |
Foreign oppressor? There's the band wagoning right there. Tibet is a part of Chinese territory and has been so for the last 700 years. These are not some freedom fighters, they are nothing but thugs. I have absolutely no sympathy for such thugs.
| And USA was a British colony too. But the Americans did not want to drink tea at 4 o'clock anymore, so they did like the Tibetans today.
Same for Kosovo. It's the historical heart of Serbia, but most of the people from Kosovo don't want to be Serb anymore.
Tibetans may be ethnically close to the Chinese people, they have their own culture and their own religion. If they don't want to be communist, why should they remain under the authority of China? Haven't they the right to be independant? |
| |
03-18-08, 11:58 AM
|
#20 (permalink)
| | Professor
Join Date: Oct 2007 Last Online: Today 04:14 AM
Posts: 1,424
Thanks: 257
Thanked 294 Times in 218 Posts
| Re: Tibet: anti-Chinese rule protests spread to other areas Quote:
Originally Posted by jfuh --snip-- When we look at the entire image what we see are the true aggressors in this situation --snip-- | The chinese are pretty good at mis-representing facts themselves...
Below from an advertising campaign for a new super train route into Tibet - the image is stored in various places but I chose the Chinese embassies servers in London (until they delete this image) for the source..
and here.. is the story of how the truth came out - EastSouthWestNorth: Top 10 News Photo Of The Year Was Faked |
| | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts HTML code is Off | | |
LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/archives/29342-tibet-anti-chinese-rule-protests-spread-other-areas.html | | Posted By | For | Type | Date | | WASALive ! Protests spread | This thread | Refback | 03-18-08 02:06 AM | | |