AsIseeIt

Yes, Infinite Chaos, your story turns out to be true. However, we have to take note of these realities:

1. Even if Mollet were an emperor like Napoleon with absolute power, he would never be able to persuade or force his people to accept his preposterous and outrageous ideas of merging with the UK or joining the Commonwealth in view of the French traditional ill feelings towards the British.

2. Of Mollet's strange proposals, the BBC news document said that "no record of them seems to exist in the French archives and it is clear that he told few other ministers of the day about them". This shows that Mollet was aware that his ideas would not have gone down well with his people.

Even if an agreement was struck between Eden and Mollet, the French populace would strongly oppose and revolt against the proposal. Who volunteered to be subservient to the British, Mollet or the whole French nation? How would the French think of Mollet's ideas? Would they accept his ideas? How would the French people rate him in history, hero or traitor? Would the French consider the preposterous ideas a national shame? One person does not have the power to decide the fate of a nation, especially in a Western democratic country like France. Hence your claim that France volunteered to become part of the British Empire does not make much sense in practice.

jfuh

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAy off topic bro. The point was non-violent transfer and was only brought up as a question.

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jfuh

What I forgot to emphasize however is that this power transfer never materialized and thus there is no instance of the past of any peaceful acquisition of territory.

Infinite Chaos

Not quite............................................. .

Although the Germans later went on to start / cause / fight two World Wars - their aquisition of territory can be thought of as relatively peaceful.

The territory that became Namibia was largely bought by a German trader for the German Empire - Adolf Lüderitz and he is known to have bought it for the German Empire. There are wars later on and Germans are placed in concentratiuon camps (is this where they learned the idea from?) but the original aquisition is peaceful.

Infinite Chaos

I agree with jfuh - this is way off topic and needs its own thread - but no however about it. Story = true = end of = story.

jfuh

Oh come one, you're just being prudish now Holding at gun point I would hardly consider to be peaceful.

AsIseeIt

1. Following are excerpts from a news report headlined "Singapore says Olympic torch relay protests will have lifetime consequences" in Singapore says Olympic torch relay protests will have lifetime consequences - Yahoo! Singapore News

(Begin excerpts)
SINGAPORE: Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong has warned that the outrage in China, especially among the young, over the displays of contempt for China and things Chinese will have consequences well beyond the Beijing Olympic Games.

Mr Lee noted that the Chinese anger can be read on the flooded Internet bulletin boards, all carrying strong anti-foreign sentiments......

Prime Minister Lee believes that no protesting group truly expects their public display of outrage at China’s treatment of Tibetans or ethnic Han dissidents will change China’s policy.

He feels this issue affects core security concerns, and the protesters know that no government can give ground on any core issue under such public duress, whatever the merit of the argument.

And whatever the intentions of the demonstrators, the people of China believe the protesters want to inflict maximum humiliation on China and the Chinese people more than the Chinese government.

"The outrage in China, especially among the young, can be read on the flooded Internet bulletin boards, all carrying virulent anti-foreign sentiments. Pity they are in unintelligible Chinese ideographs. Were they in the English language, young Americans and Europeans would realise that these displays of contempt for China and things Chinese will have consequences in their lifetime, well beyond the Olympic Games," said PM Lee." (End excerpts)

2. The anger of the older generation is no less than the young Chinese. The older Chinese still retain vivid memories of Western imperialist encroachment on Chinese territories during the Ching Dynasty. The current anti-Chinese bashing in the West shows that the Western imperialist remnants still dream of their "long lost glory of imperialism and colonialism" that had brought untold sufferings to people outside Europe.

As time goes on, China may find it advantageous to emulate the West in how to make itself look like a good guy while actually not. The following ideas are worth copying by the Chinese (without infringing copyrights):

a. In the future, dissidents and native rebels from America and Europe may be allowed to seek asylum or set up representative offices in China as long as they stay on the path of non-violence.

b. A Chinese lawmaker may find that one easy way to ensure that the world will never forget her existence is to become a Chinese Pelosi. Once a while when the Chinese lawmaker feels bored with life, she can seek excitement by:

i. getting her colleagues to present a Chinese Congressional gold medal to a deserving Red Indian freedom fighter.

ii. getting the Chinese Parliament to pass resolutions condemning America's human right violations against the Red Indians.

c. Radio Free America may be set up to bring the message of freedom to all American natives.

d. As time flies like an arrow, a Chinese mainland or Hong Kong actor may find that at a certain stage in his acting career, it is not a bad idea to become a Chinese Richard Gere to fight for the cause of Red Indian independence.

Infinite Chaos

All good stuff and I would hope to see this in my lifetime.

I take it you accept that communist China needs to undergo some kind of transition first before it can embark on these glorious ideals?

AsIseeIt

Infinite Chaos says: "All good stuff and I would hope to see this in my lifetime.

I take it you accept that communist China needs to undergo some kind of transition first before it can embark on these glorious ideals?"


All these "glorious ideals" are simply a tit for tat that can be made at any convenient time.

If western countries persist in creating infinite chaos by meddling here and there, it would be just a matter of time that other nations including China will learn to create infinite chaos by meddling here and there. The end result? You won't be disappointed in your lifetime.

Infinite Chaos

What makes you think China hasn't started already?
I sense you are loyal to China but do you accept that governments (including the Chinese) can do things which are wrong? Do you ever question your own Government or is this blind loyalty?