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Old 05-16-08, 07:36 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Wow... Yes.. It is his job to put an innocent person in glass and point a gun at his head. And I am complaining about this simply because someone asked why I would complain about something like that.
Why didn't you complain to the proper authority then?

Your story is like millions out there on the internet that are so over dramatized that I fail to sympathize with you because they always sound so bogus and surreal compared to reality.
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Old 05-16-08, 08:02 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Why didn't you complain to the proper authority then?

Your story is like millions out there on the internet that are so over dramatized that I fail to sympathize with you because they always sound so bogus and surreal compared to reality.
Awww.. If only there was an unthanks sorta thing for calling me a liar.
Love ya anyways. Ive never read a million posts on cops putting them in glass though. Mine is the first ive even heard of it. Ive heard of cops beating people and stuff.

Whats so hard to believe that instead of treating people right some trigger happy dude wanted me to move so he could shoot me.

I certianly thought that at the time.

Anyways.
Cops with rocks are bad mmkay. You are the one with the messed up view on this.
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Old 05-17-08, 05:18 AM   #63 (permalink)
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I agree with Caine, I have talk to so many people complain about how they get treated by the police. Do you really expect a cop to be a mind reader or psychic? Hows he or she suppose to know your innocent unless he investigates, but I also dont expect you to think any cops just gonna be how happy joy joy when conducting a search especially on someone he honestly believes to be a bad guy. Its the same crap I hear from so many people f*&k the cops, but as soon as they are in trouble they are dailing 911 with the quickness. Me personally think Police Officer have it hard enough without having to deal with the disrespectful a*@pirates they run into everyday...GO LAWFORCEMENT
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Old 05-17-08, 10:00 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Awww.. If only there was an unthanks sorta thing for calling me a liar.
Love ya anyways. Ive never read a million posts on cops putting them in glass though. Mine is the first ive even heard of it. Ive heard of cops beating people and stuff.

Whats so hard to believe that instead of treating people right some trigger happy dude wanted me to move so he could shoot me.

I certianly thought that at the time.

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Cops with rocks are bad mmkay. You are the one with the messed up view on this.
You still didn't answer my question.

Why wasn't this reported to the proper authority?
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Old 05-17-08, 01:46 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I agree with Caine, I have talk to so many people complain about how they get treated by the police. Do you really expect a cop to be a mind reader or psychic? Hows he or she suppose to know your innocent unless he investigates, but I also dont expect you to think any cops just gonna be how happy joy joy when conducting a search especially on someone he honestly believes to be a bad guy. Its the same crap I hear from so many people f*&k the cops, but as soon as they are in trouble they are dailing 911 with the quickness. Me personally think Police Officer have it hard enough without having to deal with the disrespectful a*@pirates they run into everyday...GO LAWFORCEMENT
Again. Blanket statements do not work. "Alot of people complain about that sorta stuff" = Your opinion backed by no facts. Just because you think it happens and its your mood.

And if you think just because someone took some training corses and was given a metal badge you MUST respect them? No... I respect them anyways but they are not superhuman.

You cannot report them to there own people... It wouldnt work unless you had it all on tape because a cops word is greater than an average person. (and it shouldnt be).

Thankfully they have RateMyCop.com - Home

But I was never given a ticket and didnt have a chance to read the cops badge with the whole put my back to him while some female cop searched me (that was cool) and he pointed his gun. I wasnt really thinking about his name badge or raising hell.... I was thinking about not moving.

So if personal experiences cannot be brought to debate then what can?


p.s. This cop had a rock.
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Old 05-19-08, 09:02 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Again. Blanket statements do not work. "Alot of people complain about that sorta stuff" = Your opinion backed by no facts. Just because you think it happens and its your mood.

And if you think just because someone took some training corses and was given a metal badge you MUST respect them? No... I respect them anyways but they are not superhuman.

You cannot report them to there own people... It wouldnt work unless you had it all on tape because a cops word is greater than an average person. (and it shouldnt be).

Thankfully they have RateMyCop.com - Home

But I was never given a ticket and didnt have a chance to read the cops badge with the whole put my back to him while some female cop searched me (that was cool) and he pointed his gun. I wasnt really thinking about his name badge or raising hell.... I was thinking about not moving.

So if personal experiences cannot be brought to debate then what can?


p.s. This cop had a rock.
Its not a blanket statement, it my personal experiences to listen to people bash cops. Many people at that. So do you respect police officers or not? You respect cops because they are people. Besides they have more training to handle criminal activity than you do, or even to handle hostil situations and investigate crimes. So do you not respect military members? The bottom line is police officers lifes are on the line everyday and if you are calm, respectful and follow their directions you wont have any problem.
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Old 05-19-08, 11:54 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Its not a blanket statement, it my personal experiences to listen to people bash cops. Many people at that. So do you respect police officers or not? You respect cops because they are people. Besides they have more training to handle criminal activity than you do, or even to handle hostil situations and investigate crimes. So do you not respect military members? The bottom line is police officers lifes are on the line everyday and if you are calm, respectful and follow their directions you wont have any problem.
I respect all cops and all soldiers.
But evil men or people that are doing wrong don't deserve as much.
The cop in this video with a rock for example.
The cop who I was being respectful to who treated me rough doesn't deserve as much respect.
I think a soldier that will put on some armor, strap on a gun and say "Hey this is what I believe in, if you disagree lets fight" is much, much more honorable than some guy in a bush with an IED blowing up cars.
Personally I don't believe in killing at all and think that everyone else should.
But I don't think I belong on our planet either. :p
Because everyone else seems to disagree.

Now a cop who will choke down his pride and not take a shortcut to use his authority and deal with some screaming person or even a little disrespectful person would make me very proud to be a human along with him.
Guess I'd make a bad cop.
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Now a cop who will choke down his pride and not take a shortcut to use his authority and deal with some screaming person or even a little disrespectful person would make me very proud to be a human along with him.
Guess I'd make a bad cop.

So... in a sense.... a pushover right?

Police get trained and paid to take control of a situation and solve the problem.

If they are going to just stand there in a non-authoritative way, why be there at all exactly?

They get paid to be "authority" not to watch people act like fools.

If you mean something else in here you sure don't make it clear. And since this seemed to come from nowhere, I will assume it has something to do with why you were "treated aggressively".

You wanted a pushover cop and he wasn't one so you are now pissed at the police for being the authority they are paid to be.
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Old 05-20-08, 01:47 AM   #69 (permalink)
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So... in a sense.... a pushover right?

Police get trained and paid to take control of a situation and solve the problem.

If they are going to just stand there in a non-authoritative way, why be there at all exactly?

They get paid to be "authority" not to watch people act like fools.

If you mean something else in here you sure don't make it clear. And since this seemed to come from nowhere, I will assume it has something to do with why you were "treated aggressively".

You wanted a pushover cop and he wasn't one so you are now pissed at the police for being the authority they are paid to be.
Umm.. No you totally did not understand what I meant. If someone is wrong. They are dead wrong. If I needed to point a gun at someone for true safety then sure.
I have the courage to be in the mix.
I chose not to be a dick.
You wouldnt believe some of the situations I've seen from the sinfull part of my life.
Well.
Maybe you would.
But to think I am a pansy because I am respectful is a serious error in judgement.
Im tired of doing this pointless arguement with what you trying to figure out I am.


This cop had a rock man.
Check out the vid.
It's fun to watch over and over.
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Here is additional further coverage of the same event.
YouTube - Cops Admit "Agent Provocateurs" @ North American Union
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