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Old 03-09-08, 06:51 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Re: Why should retards be allowed to speak?

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Yeah, that's ableism.
It's as bad as racism or sexism; perhaps even a little bit worse.
Personally, I think judging another person's merits on the basis of his or her ability (and, for that matter, willingness) to contribute to society is perfectly valid.

The only reason I am opposed to the OP's proposal is that there's no way to implement it in a fashion that I am comfortable with. Frankly, as far as the ability to meaningfully shape governmental policy is concerned... I don't see very much difference from the "retards" that the OP is worried about and a large majority of human beings.

Biggest problem seems to me that the criteria for involvement in Western politics has more to do with money than with intelligence, rationality, or commitment to consistent ethical principles.
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Old 03-10-08, 10:53 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Re: Why should retards be allowed to speak?

I'd rather see a law requiring IQ tests for people running for office--rather than for people doing the electing.

And I wish it had been in place eight years ago.
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I'd rather see a law requiring IQ tests for people running for office--rather than for people doing the electing.

And I wish it had been in place eight years ago.
An 89 IQ can still get into Yale though.
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I'd rather see a law requiring IQ tests for people running for office--rather than for people doing the electing.

And I wish it had been in place eight years ago.
Agree, Al Gore, Bush the second, and McCain all had pretty lousy academic records in college, and yet, they made it to high office. Nepotism trumps brains most of the time....
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Old 03-12-08, 10:43 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Re: Why should retards be allowed to speak?

IQ-Test. School grades. And rule out everybody who voted for bush..
And even if so, who cares? The Government should be more qualified if it has more power. After all, in the history of man-kind Hitler's Germany, and Stalin's USSR were the quickest to be industrialized.

IQ-tests are not valid at all it has no measure for the persons drive, it doesnt take into account a persons test taking abilities and its never accurate enough.
and for school grades are you saying einstien is stupid for failing math in school, or perhaps school is just harder for others? and also Stalins and Hitlers countries were also the quickest to fall. Hitler was also injected with amphetamines every morning.
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IQ-Test. School grades. And rule out everybody who voted for bush..
And even if so, who cares? The Government should be more qualified if it has more power. After all, in the history of man-kind Hitler's Germany, and Stalin's USSR were the quickest to be industrialized.

IQ-tests are not valid at all it has no measure for the persons drive, it doesnt take into account a persons test taking abilities and its never accurate enough.
and for school grades are you saying einstien is stupid for failing math in school, or perhaps school is just harder for others? and also Stalins and Hitlers countries were also the quickest to fall. Hitler was also injected with amphetamines every morning.
Dictatorship much? lol

As you may not have noticed, the central theme of the thread is about DEMOCRACY. One wonders why you would bring up the likes of Stalin and Hitler, when you know they both don't belong.

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Dictatorship much? lol

As you may not have noticed, the central theme of the thread is about DEMOCRACY. One wonders why you would bring up the likes of Stalin and Hitler, when you know they both don't belong.

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i didnt bring it up i quoted it but i did it wrong, my mistake
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Old 03-14-08, 10:40 AM   #48 (permalink)
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Re: Why should retards be allowed to speak?

i quoted it from interesting ideas
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Old 03-15-08, 05:35 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Re: Why should retards be allowed to speak?

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Yeah, that's ableism.
It's as bad as racism or sexism; perhaps even a little bit worse.
I far too lazy to type "mentally handicapped" every time I want to refer to a retard. Just like I'm way to lazy to type "African American" when its much easier to say ...() I mean "blacks".

I could care less about being PC to a person or people that don't have an ounce of influence in my life. Being PC is a way of appeasing idiots who don't understand the logical fallacy of guilt by association.

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Old 03-16-08, 12:51 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I far too lazy to type "mentally handicapped" every time I want to refer to a retard. Just like I'm way to lazy to type "African American" when its much easier to say ...() I mean "blacks".

I could care less about being PC to a person or people that don't have an ounce of influence in my life. Being PC is a way of appeasing idiots who don't understand the logical fallacy of guilt by association.
Do you have kids? How would you feel if you had a mentally handicapped and people called them retards? You would not give a ****?
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