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View Poll Results: Which ticket will win the 2008 Presidential Race in November?
John McCain? 45 45.92%
Hillary/Obama? 53 54.08%
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Old 02-12-08, 11:26 PM   #251
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Obama is on a roll and there's no way McCain who is pro-war will come close to beating him....
Your also assuming that the terrorist wont hit us again to help McCain.
Bush / McCain are their greatest asset.
If they lost McCain, then the terrorists would have to do their own recruiting instead of us doing it for them.
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Old 02-13-08, 07:37 AM   #252
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You did not vote in the primary?
Of course I did. I was referring to the caucus on the 9th and that you had mentioned that McCain was going to do well/win here in Washington state.

......but we can talk about it after the 19th

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Washington State is probably like most states........The east is Conservative and the west rural areas are conservative but they are usually trumped by the big population cities of Tacoma and Seattle which are both very liberal.............
Are you saying that Tacoma and Seattle are the only cities voting blue?
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Are you saying that Tacoma and Seattle are the only cities voting blue?

No not at all but they are the 2 biggest population cities in Washington and are about 90% liberal...

And Example of what happens is when Slade Gorton was running for relection a few years ago he had a huge lead over Maria Cantrell coming into the Tacoma/Seattle voting area........That lead was wiped out by those 2 cities and their liberal voters

The same thing happened to Dino Rossi in his run for governor.......The only difference there is they kept counting the votes in Seattle until the Democrat got the lead........They counted them 3 times and in King County they were finding votes for the democrat in trash cans and on dead mens list.........
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They counted them 3 times and in King County they were finding votes for the democrat in trash cans and on dead mens list.........
Prove what you're writing with a link, please? I think it's not true and I think you're making it all up. Prove me wrong, please?

It is not fair to this Forum when posters write things that are very damning and do not provide one iota of evidence. One's stilted viewpoint is not fact unless it is provable with sources that back up one's claims.
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  • Poll Date Sample McCain (R) Obama (D) Und Spread
  • RCP Average 01/29 - 02/10 - 43.7 47.7 7.1 Obama +4.0
  • USA Today/Gallup 02/08 - 02/10 706 LV 46 50 4 Obama +4.0
  • AP-Ipsos 02/07 - 02/10 1,029 A 42 48 8 Obama +6.0
  • Time 02/01 - 02/04 958 LV 41 48 6 Obama +7.0
  • CNN 02/01 - 02/03 974 RV 44 52 4 Obama +8.0
  • Cook/RT Strategies 01/31 - 02/02 855 RV 43 45 9 Obama +2.0
  • ABC/Wash Post 01/30 - 02/01 1249 A 46 49 3 Obama +3.0
  • FOX News 01/30 - 01/31 900 RV 43 44 13 Obama +1.0
  • NPR 01/29 - 01/31 1000 LV 48 47 3 McCain +1.0
  • Rasmussen (Wed) 4 Day Tracking 1700 LV 40 46 14 Obama +6.0
Source: RealClearPolitics - Election 2008 - General Election: McCain vs. Obama
Just an update to see what polls are now saying, not that it matters in the long run...it's only February!
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Prove what you're writing with a link, please? I think it's not true and I think you're making it all up. Prove me wrong, please?

It is not fair to this Forum when posters write things that are very damning and do not provide one iota of evidence. One's stilted viewpoint is not fact unless it is provable with sources that back up one's claims.
Its public record and has been posted before........Google it or ask MSSYPEA.............I don't do research for you.........She will tell you that Rossi that they had 3 counts and the kept counting until the democrat won in King County and that they got votes from the dead and in trash cans to increase the count......


Even though she is a liberal I believe she is honest.......I don't think she will deny it........Even a lot of dems were upset......
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Prove what you're writing with a link, please? I think it's not true and I think you're making it all up. Prove me wrong, please?

It is not fair to this Forum when posters write things that are very damning and do not provide one iota of evidence. One's stilted viewpoint is not fact unless it is provable with sources that back up one's claims.
Oh what the hell I feel sorry for you so here you go:

Dead voted in governor's race

At least eight people who died well before the November general election were credited with voting in King County, raising new questions about the integrity of the vote total in the narrow governor's race, a Seattle Post-Intelligencer review has found.



http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/08/po...twell,%20Maria

The move, announced at a news conference Friday afternoon by Dino Rossi, the Republican candidate, set up what promises to be a dramatic fight in this state's courts over the validity of the seemingly endless election, in which the two candidates have never been more than a few hundred votes apart over the course of two months and three official counts.


After the first tally, Mr. Rossi led the governor's race by 261 votes, then saw his lead dwindle to 42 votes after a machine recount. Last week, he refused to concede after a final hand recount gave the Democratic candidate, Christine O. Gregoire, a 129-vote lead.
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Oh what the hell I feel sorry for you so here you go:

Dead voted in governor's race

At least eight people who died well before the November general election were credited with voting in King County, raising new questions about the integrity of the vote total in the narrow governor's race, a Seattle Post-Intelligencer review has found.



http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/08/po...twell,%20Maria

The move, announced at a news conference Friday afternoon by Dino Rossi, the Republican candidate, set up what promises to be a dramatic fight in this state's courts over the validity of the seemingly endless election, in which the two candidates have never been more than a few hundred votes apart over the course of two months and three official counts.


After the first tally, Mr. Rossi led the governor's race by 261 votes, then saw his lead dwindle to 42 votes after a machine recount. Last week, he refused to concede after a final hand recount gave the Democratic candidate, Christine O. Gregoire, a 129-vote lead.
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County officials say they are investigating the cases pointed out by the P-I. "These are not indications of fraud," said Bill Huennekens, King County's elections supervisor. "Fraud is a concerted effort to change an election."
Your story also did not say WHO was voted for? It was a total of 8 votes and if you read the story you would have known that it was mostly spouses of recently deceased people who voted absentee for their dead spouse.

Typically you read this story and blame it on Democrats and make it sound like iit was fraud and planned....and that dear Navy Pride is a very false assumption and your link proves that you are wrong and that you falsely accused Democrats of crimes.

Thanks for proving me right about you, again!
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Old 02-13-08, 10:56 PM   #260
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Did you read your own link?


Your story also did not say WHO was voted for? It was a total of 8 votes and if you read the story you would have known that it was mostly spouses of recently deceased people who voted absentee for their dead spouse.

Typically you read this story and blame it on Democrats and make it sound like iit was fraud and planned....and that dear Navy Pride is a very false assumption and your link proves that you are wrong and that you falsely accused Democrats of crimes.

Thanks for proving me right about you, again!

The dead people we democrats in King County.......That is one of the reasons the count changed in favor of them..........They also had felons voting in King County........

Get a clue!!!!!!!
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