If you care about civil rights you should be a Republican

MC.no.spin · 01-17-08, 02:16 AM

Democratic politicians are just out to buy your vote. It should be obvious to you by now they will say anything to you to get elected. On the subject of civil rights, they try to make victims out of minorities and patronize them. They will promise anything to get their vote. The only thing they won't say is that the surge is working.

They can't stand the idea of civil rights if a Republican is pushing them. They don't even want to listen.

Neither can Main Stream Media. They won't air it, or print it.

Read some of these excerpts from an African American's book My Grandfather's Son, written by Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas:

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I saw no good coming from an ever larger government that meddled, with incompetence if not mendacity, in the lives of its citizens, and I was particularly distressed by the Democratic Party's ceaseless promises to legislate the problems of blacks out of existence. Their misguided efforts had already done great harm to my people, and I felt sure that anything else they did would compound the damage. -- P.130

Merely because I was black, it seemed, I was supposed to listen to Hugh Masekela instead of Carole King, just as I was expected to be a radical, not a conservative. I no longer cared to play that game. Some of my friends accused me of being contrary for its own sake, but I knew there was more to my growing skepticism than mere stubbornness. The black people I knew came from different places and backgrounds -- social, economic, even ethnic -- yet the color of our skin was somehow supposed to make us identical in spite of our differences. I didn't buy it. Of course we had all experienced racism in one way or another, but did that mean we had to think alike? -- P.62

I was bitter towards the white bigots whom I held responsible for the unjust treatment of blacks, but even more bitter towards the ostensibly unprejudiced whites who pretended to side with black people while using them to further their own political and social ends, turning against them when it suited their purposes. At least southerners were up front about their bigotry: you knew exactly where they were coming from, just like the Georgia rattlesnakes that always let you know when they were ready to strike. Not so the paternalistic big city whites who offered you a helping hand so long as you were careful to agree with them, but slapped you down if you started acting as if you didn't know your place. -- P.75

It was disconcerting to watch other people using food stamps to buy whatever they pleased, but I knew our financial problems would someday come to an end, whereas theirs were likely to stay with them. -- P.85

I'd been spending so much time thinking obsessively about race that I'd lost sight of the rest of what the world had to offer. My new friends knew better. They understood what mattered: family, home, church, friends. -- P.99

I'd already noticed that it was liberals, not conservatives, who were more likely to condescend to blacks, but I assumed, like the good radical I once was, that liberals and conservatives were simply two different breeds of snake, one stealthy, the other openly hostile. Yet, here was a black man who talked hard common sense about race -- the same sense I was groping towards -- and was being praised for it in America's most staunchly Republican newspaper. All at once the political spectrum looked more complicated than I had previously suspected. -- P.108

"Black is a state of mind," one Democratic staffer told me, by which I assumed he meant being a liberal Democrat. That kind of all-us-black-folks-think-alike nonsense wasn't part of my upbringing, and I saw it as nothing more than a way to herd blacks into a political camp. -- P.125

I saw no good coming from an ever larger government that meddled, with incompetence if not mendacity, in the lives of its citizens, and I was particularly distressed by the Democratic Party's ceaseless promises to legislate the problems of blacks out of existence. Their misguided efforts had already done great harm to my people, and I felt sure that anything else they did would compound the damage. -- P.130

One reporters told me that good news about civil rights wasn't "newsworthy" during the Reagan years. As far as I was concerned, that said it all. -- P.162

...I'd come to realize, as a I told a reporter, that "conservatives don't exactly break their necks to tell blacks that they're welcome." Was it because they were prejudiced? Perhaps some of them were, but the real reason, I suspected, was that blacks didn't vote for Republicans, nor would Democrats work with President Reagan on Civil-Rights issues. As a result there was little interest within the administration in helping a constituency that wouldn't do anything in return to help the President. My suspicions were confirmed when I offered my assistance to President Reagan's reelection campaign, only to be met with near total indifference. One political consultant was honest enough to tell me straight out that since the president's reelection strategy didn't include the black vote, there was no role for me. -- P.179

Back in 1984, I'd told Juan Williams exactly how I felt about the refusal of civil-rights leaders to treat President Reagan other than contemptuously. All they did, I said, was "b*tch, b*tch, b*tch, moan and moan, whine and whine. That doesn't help anything...You don't call the judge reviewing your case a jack*ss; you don't call the banker reviewing your loan application a fool. But that's exactly what black leaders have done with this administration. They've called the President everything but a child of God." -- P.183

"...I was struck by how easy it had become for sanctimonious whites to accuse a black man of not caring about civil rights. It was as ludicrous as a well-fed man lecturing a starving person about his insensitivity to world hunger" -- P.202

Jray · 01-17-08, 09:16 PM

Clarence Thomas is one ****ed up dude.

danarhea · 01-20-08, 07:29 PM

It works both ways:

Democrats want to buy your vote.

Republicans want to cage your vote, that is, if you are not Republican.

The silenced majority · 01-20-08, 07:35 PM

A black man who started out in abject poverty studies, works hard and eventually ascends to be one of the 9 justices on the Supreme Court of the United States; all the while refusing to be type casted in to a particular group think/identity - recognizing the impediment to progress the embracing of such an ideology creates - is ****ed up exactly how?

independent_thinker2002 · 01-20-08, 09:17 PM

Patriot Act.

MC.no.spin · 01-20-08, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

Patriot Act.

# Passed the House on October 24, 2001 (Yeas: 357; Nays: 66)
# Passed the Senate on October 25, 2001 (Yeas: 98; Nays: 1)

That one you can hang on both parties.

Also, can you name one innocent person who had their civil rights violated as a result of the Patriot Act?

independent_thinker2002 · 01-20-08, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MC.no.spin

# Passed the House on October 24, 2001 (Yeas: 357; Nays: 66)
# Passed the Senate on October 25, 2001 (Yeas: 98; Nays: 1)

That one you can hang on both parties.

Also, can you name one innocent person who had their civil rights violated as a result of the Patriot Act?

Repubs introduced the bill. Dems were worrying about their jobs.

Jose Padilla. He was innocent before his trial. We used to believe that in America. "Innocent until proven guilty".

MC.no.spin · 01-20-08, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002

Repubs introduced the bill. Dems were worrying about their jobs.

Jose Padilla. He was innocent before his trial. We used to believe that in America. "Innocent until proven guilty".

José Padilla (aka Abdullah al-Muhajir and
Muhajir Abdullah) was found guilty of all charges against him on August 16, 2007, by a federal jury, which found that he conspired to kill people in an overseas jihad and to fund and support overseas terrorism. He was scheduled to be sentenced on December 5, 2007, but his sentencing was postponed to January, due to the death of a family member of the Judge who will sentence him.

independent_thinker2002 · 01-20-08, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MC.no.spin

José Padilla (aka Abdullah al-Muhajir and
Muhajir Abdullah) was found guilty of all charges against him on August 16, 2007, by a federal jury, which found that he conspired to kill people in an overseas jihad and to fund and support overseas terrorism. He was scheduled to be sentenced on December 5, 2007, but his sentencing was postponed to January, due to the death of a family member of the Judge who will sentence him.

Yep, he's been found guilty. However, he was innocent until his day in court. Are you willing to gamble your civil rights on the chance that the government won't make a mistake?

Habeus Corpus.

Billo_Really · 01-20-08, 10:58 PM

Alright, whose smoking pot?

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